Gov. Ron DeSantis has been trying not to alienate former president Donald Trump’s voters since as far back as 2018, ABC News first reported.
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1457015
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1457015
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The media outlet obtained two and a half hours of video footage from the then-congressman’s debate prep sessions.
Ooh, someone doesn’t like DeSantis.
I find it exceedingly strange that a man who has trouble interacting with people, as in can’t make friends or allies, decides that public office is his thing.
As we’ve seen that Clarence has his Crow, who is DeSantis’ sugardaddy?
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When T rumpp first came on the political scene in 2015, his governing philosophy was largely an unknown. I remember big-time CEOs (Subaru America comes to mind) endorsing him by stating, “How bad could it be?”
Well, fortunately or unfortunately, we don’t have that same scenario with DeSantis. This time T rumpp voters know exactly what they’re getting with Bootsie. Ignorance is no excuse! (Even though ignorance is all they’ve got.)
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Big Fascism
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Every Republican for at least 40 years has wanted Trump voters. That is has been said many times, Trump’s base created Trump and not the other way around. Trump voters are be definition those who vote on other than economic issues.
To DeSantis specifically, what DeSantis challenge to Trump for Trump’s base reminds me of is a member of a cult challenging the cult leader for control of the cult.
The problem for DeSantis is cults are built to a great extent on personality. Trump had decades to build his personality on TV as a great business leader whereas DeSantis personality is mostly presented in his fight with Mickey Mouse.
But the real concern Republicans have now that Trump has taken such firm control of that base, if Trump is not the nominee, will they still vote for Republicans. I mean while the GOP is the Party of billionaires, Trump’s base mostly has a high school diploma or less.
So in my view trying to defeat Donald Trump by trying to steal Trump voters is a fools errand. What Republicans need to do to defeat Trump is win Republicans who are not Trump’s base, hope that is enough and that in a General Election they will fall in line behind the GOP candidate if for not other reason is their hatred of Democrats/“those people”.
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Speaketh DeSatan: Give me your crazies, your poor, your huddled MAGAts yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your Mar A Lago shore.
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Richard Nixon is the classic example of a politician who was uncomfortable around people.
As for a hatred factor, if Trump had not been the GOP nominee in 2016 it might have been Ted, to know him is to hate him, Cruz.
The number 2 House Republican is Steve “I am David Dukes without the baggage” Scalise. I think De’Santis claim is he is Donald Trump without the baggage. The problem is by trying defeat Donald Trump by winning Trump’s base, DeSantis is creating his own baggage. In short, DeSantis is becoming another “to know him is to hate him”.
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For Goopers ublic office = power, not service,
That’s all DeathSentence is interested in. The people are simultaneously the means to an end and a pain in the butt. He wants to woo the former and muzzle the latter.
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"A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims… but accomplices." – George Orwell
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Lots of people want to throw money DeSatan’s way.
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Ouch! Does does Donnie know he’s not their fair haired boy anymore?
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All about Citizens United which our corrupt SCOTUS thought was a good to foist on voters. Rich ones, that is.
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“Obviously there is because, I mean, I voted contrary to him in the Congress,” he said. “I have to frame it in a way that’s not going to piss off all his voters.”
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Van Drew is excluded, because he was a Democrat, before he switched parties.
O/t: Tony Khan needs to hurry up with that reboot.
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Muthafish…
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Lots of ordinary repub voters have fallen by the wayside, they’re not going to support a crazy man and punitive legislators, nor are R women going to support a party and its candidates who are stripping abortion rights away every day. They may not vote for Democrats, maybe some third party candidate, but Rs have lost them for generations to come.
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Donnie has never thought he is less than the best thing since sliced bread to happen to this county.
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Though it is always just a bit uncomfortable for me any time Trump shows up in politics (or, anywhere else, for that matter), watching he and DeSantis tear each other apart with elementary school insults while stabbing each other in the back will be interesting.
It is a shame that our political system has become so distorted by GOP manipulation that the outcome of the presidential election would be in any doubt, else I might sleep a bit sounder for the next few years.
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Noting that one way women are equal to men is they are equally hypocritical. Women are also equally as racist and xenophobic as men. Furthermore, there is still a significant portion of the female population that depend on men for their economics and therefore do not object to unequal pay.
Therefore I am not convinced that a huge portion of the 55% of White women who voted for Trump will not vote for Trump on another Republican in 2024.
Others have discussed about laws that bind but do not protect one group while protecting but not binding another group.
For decades it has been true that to be a Republican you must have two sets of morals and standards, one for yourself and another for everyone else. In fact they are Republicans because in their minds the preferred set of standards applies to you and the other to “those people”.
So to the extent Republican women change their voting patterns based on abortion depends on if the law binds them. If, as I suspect the Supreme Court will end up ruling, that abortion access is a “state” issue, it will mean that women of some means will, short of emergency, be able to obtain whatever healthcare, including abortion and contraception, they want.
The last 2 Republican presidents both had one thing in common, they were unfit to be president. Yet both won a majority of the White women vote while opposing anything that helped women from healthcare, equal pay, safety, literally every issue that helped women Bush and Trump opposed.
So again noting that Donald Trump in the last election received 55% of the White women vote, after everything Trump said and did including his Supreme Court appointments, I predict that regardless if the nominee is Trump or someone else, the GOP nominee will still win over 50% of the White women vote.
While that small decline is significant and could swing a few states, but short of a nationwide abortion ban, I doubt it will have that much of an affect.
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How did such a terrible loser of a politician win his first election, much less several?
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