Dems Sound Off On What Should Be In Budget Reconciliation Plan | Talking Points Memo

That you’re not using your ‘gratuitous’ to describe Manchin’s behaviour here speaks volumes about how worthwhile your opinion is.

That is a totally unnecessary ad hominem insult, and you should delete the comment.

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Does humanity posess the collective will to stop emitting CO2?

Words do not equal actions. Good intentions won’t cut it. Legislation that doesn’t include accountability isn’t fooling anybody. The Earth isn’t waiting for humans to make up their minds. Time is up. The Earth is burning and all of the fresh water towers of ice are melting. The West Antarctica Ice Sheet has destabilized and 60’ of sea level rise is already baked in. There’s no stopping it.

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Thanks, Mr. Greenstein, for stating why the GQP Trump KKKult will fight it harder than they’ve fought any budget in 40+ years.

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OT, but Faux News has now forgotten who was POTUS in 2020 and has a Karen on to prove it…

ETA: I’m honestly appalled that the KKKomment board hasn’t been shut down yet. WOW. JUST WOW.

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That’s true. Sea level rise is a crisis we can’t stop.
What will be even worse is ocean acidification. That will be catastrophic.
Then there’s cataclysmic mass extinction.

Have a nice day.:pleading_face:

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OT, but BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…oh man the hissy fit on this is going to be awesome…

I’ll bet this year’s earnings that the Trump KKKult and Faux News start a movement to kneel during the “Black National Anthem” as a way of calling everyone the n-bomb. Then, hopefully, players walk off the field and refuse to play and we get to watch Faux News go batshit fucking crazy over their supposed “hypocrisy.”

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As a country, we seem no more capable of helping ourselves than a man with severe OCD can escape from a public bathroom when there are no paper towels left to use on the door handle. We are completely trapped by the limits of our ability to think beyond our current status quo.

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Bit more complex than that. Many goes down to corruption overall though.

I’ve never believed that coal miners or descendants of miners want to continue to be miners. I know they are said to think, “My daddy was a miner, my grandaddy died with black lung, and going down in the mine or helping to strip a mountain, why that’s our heritage, and the life we cherish.”. Bullshit. That’s people putting words in others mouths for their own reasons.

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I’d like to see something on the nearby RR tracks other than coal cars being shuttled twixt here and Wyoming. Wind mill blades are an awesome sight. Those things are downright bigly.

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OT, but this is, of course, more projection. If they want these people back in TX, all they have to do is issue the arrest warrants or indictments and begin the procedures to have them extradited back from DC to TX to face their crimes. “They’ll be arrested when they return” is pussy talk…complete fakery and all hat no cattle, all sizzle no steak. It’s the threat of a bully and coward who has no intention of following through, but wants to put on a performance. DO IT OR STFU. WE DARE YOU.

It ain’t the Dems who were the cowards in this situation. It’s yet again the GQP Trump KKKult.

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I’ve been trying to guess the length when passing them. About 80’ seems right.

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Manchin punted when I asked if he’d vote against reconciliation if the climate provisions aren’t changed:

MANCHIN: We have to deal with facts okay. The facts are that there’s more fossil being used in the world if it’s global, I surely wouldn’t — when my colleagues see the facts.

Also, can we go back to the days of wood stoves? Wood stoves are cool. Trees were meant to be burned.

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That group of Dems pushing to pass the bipartisan bill without the reconciliation bill can fuck right off. We’ve had Lucy move the football too many times for that bullshit. That is the first step to not doing the reconciliation bill at all.

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Shorter Manchin: I haven’t fully decided which parts of this bill I’m going to make significantly worse or how yet, but I can promise you climate change will be the part I do the most damage to.

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I am reminded of HRC’s foray into WV and insisting she would spend millions and millions of dollars on retraining programs for new green or other non-coal jobs back in the 2016 campaign.

She was lucky to get a quarter of the votes cast for President in the State.

WV has no interest whatsoever in moving away from coal, which has been their tradition since its founding.

@gajake

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“we seem no more capable of helping ourselves…” I hope you are not letting living in Mesa get to you. There are ways to cope. For example, I could give you a Pearce address making it possible to go by, look at the tattered Trump 2020 flag in the front yard, and snicker to your heart’s content.

Please let me know when California yoga instructors (excluding the QAnon ones) start voting in W. Va.

I have been saying on this site from the very beginning that Manchin will vote for a big infrastructure bill, because he agrees with it and because his state - perhaps more than any other state - needs a constant infusion of federal infrastructure dollars to survive economically.

In addition, when you have only won re-election by 3% in a state that Trump won with, I believe, 70% of the vote, you had better start your campaign with a wildly enthusiastic base: that means Manchin had better bring home the bacon, which he will.

My suggestion is that instead of demanding that Manchin commit suicide, you concentrate on getting a bill he can support that will help him get re-elected. And, oh by the way, Manchin could flip the Senate Republican any day that he wants to, just by announcing he is becoming a Republican. Once he does that, he will make McConnell majority leader and cruise to re-election. That ought to make all the Manchin haters here happy.

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More carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is good for plants. Everyone agrees. And ice and snow suck. It can all melt, who cares?

It’s science. Look it up.

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