Democrats Scoff At Republican Insistence That Poison Pill Debt Limit Bill Is Good-Faith Negotiation

Senate Democrats physically couldn’t contain themselves Thursday when TPM asked about the Republican insistence that their bill to extend the debt ceiling — which also repeals huge swaths of the Inflation Reduction Act, adds onerous work requirements to benefit programs and slashes agency power — is a good faith effort to negotiate. 


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Please don’t forget that Team D (which may yet stand for Dunce) had the opportunity to abolish the debt limit late in 2022 and chose not to. No clean hands here.

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Senate democrats should put together a counter proposal that is the mirror grab bag of stuff we’d like, like removing tax advantages for the rich to cover our bills.

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How about ‘most opposed to’, since, you know, that conveys their actual position rather just making them sound butthurt?

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They gave Republicans rope to hang themselves with

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Or “Laughed hardest at”

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You mean 2 democrats chose not to, and you’re all too happy to assign the blame to all other democrats as if they had some magic power to overcome that. Aren’t you missing out on 4chan thread by being here?

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A stipulation: Republicans NEVER act in good faith.

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  1. CBO estimates that defunding the IRS (one of the House GOP’s demands) would add $120 Billion to the deficit over the next decade

  2. The GOP claim that existing revenues would cover both SSR and servicing the debt is nonsense because it’s not existing revenues but future revenues that would need to cover these things and failure to raise the debt ceiling would decimate future revenue

  3. SSR specifically requires new Treasury issues to sustain itself

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Undecided Republicans and fast food streamed in and out of the speakership suite for hours.

I hope they installed a streaming toilet in the speakership suite.

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Hamberders for all!

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The debt limit is the Republican go-to extortion tool every single time they get any Congressional power. When they lose that power in 2024 – it needs to be a top priority to pull every procedural lever to take dangerous tools away from children.

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One of the ones you have to flush 13 - 14 times for anything to go down?

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Nah. They just open a window.

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I’ll say it again. Power is not constrained by laws or documents or courts. Its only constraint is will. Biden could announce today that he’s taking the debt limit off the table. He could say it’s unconstitutional and that his administration will ignore it. And he could also say I dgaf what SCROTUS or any judge says, this administration will not default, end of discussion. That’s how you play hardball, not all this feckless begging of the GOP and a rump antebellum SCROTUS. Schumer could be saying the same thing. The GOP s not a serious institution. Biden needs to stop this ridiculous charade today.

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Why do the Dems NOT pay attention. The FIRST response to any question about this BS prop by the GOP should be along the lines of,

“The debt limit needs to raised to allow for spending already approved to continue. FUTURE changes to the budget are part of the budgeting process. That being said, these proposals to bankrupt America and leave the American people in a horrible situation are clearly not a serious framework for the work of the US Governement.”

Or words to that effect…

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If a group of ideologues could blow up a building and tank the world economy we’d call them terrorists wouldn’t we?

Just curious.

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Let’s compromise and pass a clean debt increase. Media acts like a clean vote is the far side of one side rather than the middle.

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And lots of ketchup.

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Not rocket science here.

Scoffing is entirely appropriate because it’s not even remotely good-faith anything…

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