Former Vice President Joe Biden took most of the hits during the second Democratic primary debate, facing attacks from nearly every other candidate onstage.
Biden has held his own is actually had a pretty good debate. Most progressives won’t want to hear that cuz they have this dream of a liberal champion as president making all their dreams come true.
My problem with Biden isn’t that he’s a moderate. I worried about the fact that he’s a total gaffe machine and a terrible campaigner. He stumbles all over himself while campaigning and Trump will eat him for lunch if he’s the nominee. He’s ahead now solely on name recognition and the fact that he was Obama’s VP. That’s all he has, and that won’t be enough to get him elected next fall.
Biden is running as a “next in line candidate.” That didn’t work for Humphrey, Mondale, Gore or H. Clinton, and it probably won’t work for him either. God help us all if the Democrats don’t see that in time.
Biden had an excellent debate.
Why would one encourage young people to involve themselves in politics if the end result of their investment of time and energy is the advancement of a non-entity like Biden?
As long as Democrats entertain their obsession with winning over the white working class voter we will never see a center-left figure like Warren in the White House (or in more than a few Senate seats, for that matter)…
I didn’t think Biden did all that well in this debate and he needed to. Nearly all the other candidates were stronger. Biden kind of revived at the end, but still not a good performance. Yang, who I had pretty much written off, presented some very interesting ideas…ideas that will be important in the coming decades. That is his strength although he won’t be the candidate. I would really like to see him in the administration and the same for many on the state tonight. Harris did well enough even after being sand-bagged by Tulsi Gabbard. She had to defend some areas which will be sore points in her campaign. The climate change discussion was good and of course, Inslee, did very well there. Also liked Corey Booker and Juan Castro a lot.
It was good to hear all the criticisms…insults…of the OrangeHorror. Easy target.
I always liked Joe Biden but in 2020 his time seems past. He just doesn’t seem to be foreward thinking enough for the future we are facing. He would probably be good at rebuilding our relationship with the rest of the world but that seems to be his strongest, maybe only, strong, point.
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Harris did not simply parry.
She told the truth.
Insurers are making the money!
I am on Medicare.
I have to buy supplemental plans under PRIVATE insurers to get FULL coverage.
Medicare does NOT give full coverage.
I selected a supplemental Plan. Which under the law they accepted me. YET,
Today, I received noticed.
My premium went UP!
It’s one thing to have it mandated they must accept & cover you.
Yes they allowed me in, as mandated by law.
But now they are increasing my premium.
Just received the notice.
Folks don’t get that FULL coverage with pre existing conditions requires selecting a plan that is mandated to take you. Then they increase the premium!
I am living this!
Biden had a better night than he did the first time around, but it was no where near an excellent debate. However, that performance was nowhere near good enough to convince me that he can take on Dump. Dump will eat his breakfast then take his dessert and eat it later. He was never my first choice but I rested easy because I believed the hype about him being able to beat Dump. Now I’m worried that if his name rec. and Obama nostalgia place holder status gets him the nom we’re well and truly fked.
I didn’t watch the debates this round, but the summaries all seem like it was the Dem candidates trying to tear each other apart, rather than how they would be best suited to take out the Orange Trash.
Sad…
Chris Hayes pointed out on Meyers last night that he thinks we really need to get just the top 4 folks in a discussion about their policies and away from 10 folks with 8 or 9 minor players bashing the top folks to try and get out of the single digit ratings.
My concern is that Biden remains the front runner but gets chewed up during the primary process making him unelectable. Which is ironic since his supposed strength is his electability.
If Harris, Booker, and everyone else continue attacking him they better make it good enough to knock him out sooner rather than later.
And yet, (and we learned our lesson about polls in 2016) Biden leads donald in state-level polls, including some in TX which is a surprise for anyone who knows much about red-red-red states. He also polled ahead in FL
More recent and all the states and all the candidates:
Nevada, Ohio, South Carolina, Iowa --etc.etc.etc.
Probably the candidate that can most handily beat donald should be the one that we elect to run against him. (Even though not the perfect person/candidate)
Every year the premium of supplemental care goes up. Partly it’s a factor that every year the insured person gets older. The older the person is, the higher the likelihood there will be a medical cost. In general it goes up every year. I just cancelled supplemental yesterday because I no longer wish to pay that premium.
A healthy person who has zero medical expenses yearly would be resistant to tax increases (especially to the degree that m4all would be, right out of the starting gate), and most people are in the healthy category:
So, for most people the tax increase, as Elizabeth and Bernie promise would actually exceed their annual medical expenses – even at these high insurance rates.
The fastest route to the best health care for the most people is to revise ACA and remove the damage that the GOP has done to it. It was intended to be far more robust from the roll out – but states like KY and TX were quick to block the ability of the g’vt to provide supplements to pay the expenses of those on the lowest income end as the plans were originally intended to do. Never-the-less I know of someone who’s life was saved (cancer) by ACA, probably everyone does.
Although I abhor the insurance industry, and think that the entire medical system is filled with scams, if there is an urgency, a 10-year phase in isn’t the best plan (Harris). How likely is it that Democratic policy makers would hold majorities for the years intervening, and look at the damage that one GOP president can do in just part of a first term.
Just like phasing out fossil fuels – as urgent as it is, how many people can get rid of their vehicle and use an electric? The reality is these things must by nature be phased in – and if insurance companies become obsolete, and if the oil industry is eliminated, then those workers from top to bottom will need to have other means of employment. How many insurance clerks and oil-rig workers can become tech entrepreneurs?
You are spot on that the medical system is broken – but the fixes floated don’t make complete sense IMO.
I knew when I heard that, it was never going to happen.
I figured it was simply a political feature for all those happy with their private insurers.
Joe has to be pretty confident or deluded that the Congress will sign off on the policies he’s proposing and they will emerge in the form he’s describing. It could be both, however.
The bottom line of your post must be ours a party. You vote for the nominee no matter the perceived deficiencies because by comparison the incumbent is nothing less than a walking talking mess of deficiencies who’s proud of them and creates more every day.
Fifteen months until now and the election.
Yes, the same way President Dukakis led Bush in so many polls until the summer of 1988, and we all know Dukakis won that election in a landslide… oh, wait.
In January of 1980 Carter was beating Reagan by nearly 30 points in a potential matchup. How did that go?
“What I want to make clear is this going back 10, 20, 30 years is just … a game to make sure that we hand Republicans an election coming up,” Biden told reporters Thursday afternoon in Detroit.
I am pretty sure that if we keep all this hush hush and no Democrats bring it up every thing will be fine, once Joe clinches the nomination Republicans would never think to go back and look at things in Joe’s past it’ll all be good. So remember Mums the word.