Dem Candidates Angry With DNC Over New Debate Rules That Favor Bloomberg | Talking Points Memo

Current and former Democratic presidential contenders on Friday criticized the Democratic National Committee for changing debate qualification requirements in a way that favored former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg.


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May the person with the most money win. Thatā€™s how itā€™s supposed to work, right?

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" Dem Candidates Angry With DNC Over New Debate Rules That Favor Bloomberg " "

Is this what " shooting yourself in the foot" means ?

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Iā€™m starting to find that Bloomberg is a really attractive candidate. I think I like him more than Biden. Bloomberg has unlimited resources and he will spend whatever it takes. The business and financial community is also not afraid of Bloomberg, like they would be Sanders. Moreover, he wants to win. We NEED to win. I think a Bloomberg/Harris ticket would be very strong. Many of us are going to have to put aside a lot of our idealism about our perfect candidate and go with the one who can win.

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I have no problem with changing the debate rules.

So long as the new requirement is that candidates with a net worth of $60 billion be taller than 5ā€™ 8".

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Just great. Headlines screaming Democrats in disarray, DNC riggedā€ etc while trump gloats about hoax witch-hunt impeachment acquittal. Smack my damn head.

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This is why we canā€™t have nice things. Like a stable government.

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The DNCā€™s latest rules, which have gotten tougher with time, require 10% approval in four national polls or 12% in two polls in Nevada and South Carolina ā€” an attainable challenge for Bloomberg.

Thatā€™s a pretty substantial support level to meet. Thereā€™s other ways to qualify. People complaining about ā€˜rigging the systemā€™ need to look at Trump. Itā€™s adjusting the rules based on the situation. If Bloomberg was spending money but not getting traction, keep him off the debate floor. If heā€™s gaining traction, people want to hear about him.

But damn, Bernie LOVES to complain about how the system is rigged against him doesnā€™t he?

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This. And this againā€¦

Vote Blue No Matter Who.

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Polling 10-12% or winning a delegate in either Iowa or New Hampshire does, by definition, make you a viable candidate for the nomination. Whether this favors someone like Bloomberg is immaterial. The criteria for being in future debates are actually stricter and more focussed on direct measurements of the viability of the candidates than indirect measures like individual donors.

Iā€™m no fan of Bloombergā€™s, but I think this is fair.

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Tulsi who?

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Well now this is refreshing. Back to the Dems in disarray narrative and away from the Repubs united against the truth narrative. On to the caucuses. Oh and the Super Bowl, the NBA playoffs and March Madness for those who want circuses rather than the less entertaining paying attention to the degradation of the nations politics thing.

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For clarity, it was Elizabeth Warren who asked the DNC to change its rules to enable Bloomberg to qualify. Bernie Sanders supports this even though his camp is pretending to be angry about it.

The reason is that Bloombergā€™s money is drowning out Sanders and Warren in states where they donā€™t have a great presence and need to invest to build one (i.e., most of the South). If you look at polling in the Southern states, Bernie and Warren are at the 15% bubble at best. Bernie is currently polling at around 16% in SC. In 2016, he polled at 32% on average. Bloombergā€™s money is raising the costs to them of getting competitive in those states. Heā€™s taxing their resources and their high cost operations.

Bloombergā€™s strategy is deceptive but itā€™s now pretty clear: he wants to limit the number of delegates Sanders and Warren obtain so that they donā€™t do damage to the party at the Convention.

For example, Biden winning South Carolina 38-14-8 over Sanders/Warren is a better result than Biden beating Bernie 70-30. Why? Because in the former scenario, Sanders and Warren get no delegates and Biden takes the lion share of them.

If Bernie gets no delegates out of the South, heā€™ll fall further behind in the delegate count and have no leverage to hold out as he did in 2016, long after HRC had effectively mathematically eliminated him.

This strategy also hurts Biden a bit, because it prevents him from consolidating the center left vote and getting to 50%. It could end up throwing states like California and Washington to Bernie. However, assuming that Pete and Amy drop out or are simply ignored by voters in these later states, Biden should get enough of a vote share to keep those races close while he cleans up elsewhere. Bloomberg remembers the '16 primary well and HRC beating Bernie by double digits across several states still added delegates to Bernieā€™s total and that meant power that he could wield in disruptive ways to inhibit her ability to unify the party and focus on the existential danger to the Republic that was Trump.

Bloomberg is simply freezing them out.

This is why Warren and Sanders want to debate Bloomberg. They want to be able to face him and attack him with all of their billionaire cliches and hope that it weakens Bloomberg and the impact of his ad spend.

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I have a feeling that Bloomberg is going to spend hundreds of millions in anti dotard ads no matter if he is a candidate or not. Same with Steyer. Not so much with the commie pinko Soros who is stealing bags of cement from the border wall construction sites. A wise commenter at WaPo informed me of that devious factoid.

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Careful, youā€™ll cut off cash flow to @castor_troy with that kind of talkā€¦

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I see Biden as past his use-by date. If you want to flip the Senate the nominee canā€™t be a senator from a state with a Republican governor, so that leaves only Klobachar. So just based on those two considerations Bloomberg seems okay to me.

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If he can get to 10 percent in the polls then sure. I would think other candidates polling at 10 and above would want the chance to debate Bloomberg.

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With that in mind I tried to be gentle with that expose of just how devious Soros is. The bastard is apparently undermining (and he may be actually funding tunnels) our national defense at a time when the POTUS is working so hard to have that be his project. He just wants to horn in on everything the dotard has his heart set on.

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Worth considering:

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" while trump gloats about hoax witch-hunt impeachment acquittal."

His fingers canā€™t wait to hit send on his twitter account for that tweet.

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