New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s (D) fall from grace continues after the New York Times on Monday night published a woman named Anna Ruch’s allegation that he had attempted to kiss her without consent at a wedding in 2019.
Where is the eye roll emoji?
Whenever one sexual misconduct accusation is brought against most any public figure, they have a tendency to snowball. It happened with George Bush Sr., Al Franken and many others.
Cuomo hasn’t made many friends on his way up. This will not blow over any time soon.
Ms. Ruch was not a subordinate in the workplace.
Is that the distinction you’re making?
So… He was into being up close and personal with much younger women at parties with all the rich and shameless.
So all the hand-wringing about calling for him to resign is not that any of this is news to folks, it’s merely that it’s becoming public knowledge.
Not that he doesn’t need to go-- he definitely does, now-- but there are a lot of hypocrites out in the rich and shameless circles that should be self-booting themselves as well.
Anyone else sick of middle aged white men who have no freaking clue that women in their 20s and 30s are by and large not interested in having sexual relationships with them?
I’m tired of this being ok because at least he didnt rape a 12 year old
This is not ok
I’m a 55 year old woman with a high level leadership position in a public organization, and I have never interacted in this way with anyone in my professional capacity.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that I think it is unlikely we will find similar behavior in Gretchen Whitmer’s record.
Get out of the way.
He attempted to (but did not?) kiss someone at a wedding? What’s next? The New Year’s Eve kiss, and the trauma of all the kissing on two cheeks during that trip to Europe? Whoever is behind this needs to come up with some better quality “victims” if they are going to keep this story above the centerfold.
Cuomo’s allegations are worse than Al Franken’s since The NY Times managed to reveal a new allegation since it had an eyewitness and photographic proof. Most of Franken’s allegations shouldn’t have been published because the reporters didn’t bother to look for eyewitnesses for corroboration even though they were part of the accusations. For example, Huff Post posted an allegation against Franken that said the women’s friends were there with her when it happened. Yet none of her friends actually gave a statement for the article to back up the Franken allegation to Huff Post unlike The NY Times allegation against Cuomo.
The same thing happened with Jezebel when they didn’t bother to find actual eye witnesses for their accusation even though there were 700 people in the room when it happened!
Cuomo’s allegations should be independently investigated.
As a New York State employee every year I’m required to take the on line sexual harassment class as well as workplace violence and active incident formally known as active shooter courses which were in a classroom setting. If he wasn’t so arrogant control freakish and detached he’d have some understanding about how effective organizations function.
From the NYT, her friend with her took photos. This is not a thrilled young lady, and if you’re meeting strangers at a party, do you think that that’s an okay place to be putting your hands, along with on her bare back?
The point of these young ladies coming out with credible stories is that it’s not a one-off. Clearly he has a habit of being handsy and trying to pick up younger women, and it hasn’t been welcomed.
Criminal? No. At least not what we’ve seen so far. But we at least should have a higher expectation of our public officials than merely not criminal.
Much comparison between Cuomo and Franken. They share this in common: the behaviors they admitted to are sufficient to forfeit their status as public leaders, and thereby to disqualify them from public office.
Well, perhaps.
After all no-one ever accused Americans of not being Puritans.
I bet Europeans are probably shaking their heads in bemusement at some of this if they’re paying attention.
Especially after watching us let Trump pull all the shit he did.
Her version:
When she removed his hand [from her lower back], he allegedly placed [his hands] on her cheeks in an “aggressive” manner and asked, “Can I kiss you?” She claims as she tried to pull away, [he] kissed her cheek. “I didn’t have a choice in that matter. I didn’t have a choice in his physical dominance over me at that moment.
I was able to view this with my free account. There’s a lot more than “attempted to kiss” to this story. I guess what separates him from T**** is that he asked first. He just grabbed her, but didn’t just kiss her. Maybe she would have let him because he was famous. Does that make it ok?
Anna Ruch had never met Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo before encountering him at a crowded New York City wedding reception in September 2019. Her first impression was positive enough.
The governor was working the room after toasting the newlyweds, and when he came upon Ms. Ruch, now 33, she thanked him for his kind words about her friends. But what happened next instantly unsettled her: Mr. Cuomo put his hand on Ms. Ruch’s bare lower back, she said in an interview on Monday.
When she removed his hand with her own, Ms. Ruch recalled, the governor remarked that she seemed “aggressive” and placed his hands on her cheeks. He asked if he could kiss her, loudly enough for a friend standing nearby to hear. Ms. Ruch was bewildered by the entreaty, she said, and pulled away as the governor drew closer.
“I was so confused and shocked and embarrassed,” said Ms. Ruch, whose recollection was corroborated by the friend, contemporaneous text messages and photographs from the event. “I turned my head away and didn’t have words in that moment.”
Sorry but this seems a little coordinated to me…Bennett complained. She did everything correctly. HR responded and transferred her. Three years later that is not good enough and she brings this up. Two more women jump on the wagon. Nothing actually happened but they didn’t ‘feel comfortable’. I believe every woman has a right to be heard. However, they don’t have to be believed. Cuomo might very well be a creep and an ahole. I don’t see harassment.
She felt harassed? It was a wedding! ffs, this kind of stupid overreaching is why we Dems can’t have nice things. After enough cries of wolf, it’s no wonder serious cases of sexual harassment often get shrugged off.
So attending a wedding means that strangers can grope and kiss you and you lose power over your body and your choices about who can touch you and be in your personal space?
This is why we can’t have nice things. First, there was physical contact with at least one of them, and it was caught on camera. Second, words aren’t “nothing”. In the modern workplace, you can’t just walk up to a subordinate and hint that you want to fuck them, asking if they like older men (and you’re an older man), etc. Not if you want continued employment.
Yawn! Notify me when Cuomo beats Orangeman’s record.
Or should he be measured against Roy Moore?
Peace
So no attempt. He kissed her cheek at a wedding - aggressively (eye roll emoji). That’s some sexual assault right there. What I’m seeing is a whole lot of folks gunning for Cuomo, a lot of smoke, but no fire-yet. I am also seeing a whole lot of people who are not familiar with the kinds of things that have been going on in the workplace that have required the passage of laws to protect against real sexual harassment. I’m not ruling out an eventual fire, however, because people would be shocked at some of the outrageous things that actually do happen in the workplace and how they are covered up for years sometimes.
I think you’re overstating it slightly.
I doubt you’d get fired, but you’d definitely get written up, reprimanded and possibly laterally transferred.
At least that’s the way I interpret the sexual harassment training I get every year at the NY firm I work at.
At least if it was just hinting and such.
Depends on the level of it I think.
Second offenses after the first write-up would get you booted though I’m pretty sure.
