Congress Is Back: Now We Watch The Sausage Get Made As Dems Fight For Their Agenda | Talking Points Memo

If, as Josh mentioned in his editorial post, Sinema has said she will sink reconciliation if her own negotiated bill isn’t passed by the end of the month, I say make her do it. And then boot her ass from the caucus if she does.

At some point you have to draw the line. As furious as Manchin can be, and is, he doesn’t just draw arbitrary lines in the sand that jettison his own positions. There is typically some rational beyond arbitrary petulance.

So over Ms Curtsy. If she insists on threatening to shoot the nearest hostage, give her a cute little thumbs down and send her packing.

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One way on another, the corporate interests will turn Biden into another Obama by blocking every damn thing of his. They appear to be succeeding.

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Great idea.

Because there aren’t things like judicial and executive branch appointments that are on the line with holding the majority, nor about basic conduct of business such as what Committees are investigating and holding hearings on.

Kicking her out of the caucus means no action on anything, and Senate “investigations” into the 2020 Stolen Election running 24/7.

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Manchin will surely argue that the collapse of the global economy is a small price to pay to preserve the venerable traditions of the Senate.

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Naw, he’s solidly Exxon-owned, and Exxon does not need the dollar to collapse, or it’ll wreak havoc on quarterly revenue and stock value.

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Yes, I realize this. All of it. And Sinema knows it too. At some point she has to decide if she’s actually a Democrat.

If she is willing to jettison all you’ve listed - and more - just because there isn’t a vote on her pet project by Sep 27, then she’s already made her decision.

She’s acting like a child, not a Senator, at least not a Democratic Senator. Might as well make that clear to her now.

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So if Breyer kicks the bucket in the next year, you’d like MoscowMitch to be able to block a replacement potentially until 2025 when he might get to a 7-2 majority?

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“All three have supported virtually identical bills in the past.”

Let me guess: they supported it when they knew it couldn’t actually get passed.

Fuck 'em. Take them off the committee. NMNQ

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I say pitch them both as they are not important wholly not worth discussing as a matter of priority.

Without the voting rights bill the republic is gone.

Pass that and we can start talking about anything else.

Until then nothing is more important.

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I may be completely naive, but I am disappointed in the performance of “centrist” (they’re not) Democrats giving pharmaceutical companies a blow job and Manchin and Sinema prancing around blocking almost everything I have wanted to see happen for the last 3 decades. These people do not deserve the offices they hold. If they don’t get their shit together soon they will become the new Liebermans - sacrificing the whole country and generations of Americans to fulfill corrupt promises to large donors.

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For it before they were against it?

-Paging Sec. Kerry

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Time for DCCC to be a bit more open about whom they will and will not support in 2022

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Not necessarily.

Speaker Pelosi can use what is called a “Deeming resolution” to pass the two bills simultaneously. With such a resolution, when the first bill is voted on, the resolutions deems the second bill to have also passed by the same vote.
It’s a time-honored way of getting a budget passed when there is disagreement.

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Every time the R’s do this, the US is viewed as less stable, its bond rating goes down, and its cost of borrowing goes up. R’s know this and they just don’t care. Meanwhile, the sorry little pittance some seniors put aside for retirement shrinks in value. R’s just hate America.

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Yeah, there’s nothing quite so satisfying as cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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I think she is susceptible to nudging, but it will have to come from DSCC/DNC.

It’s about time they do.

I’m not sure Manch is as persuadible in this manner.

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Agreed, I do think the pressure needs to be a bit more public, I think there needs to be someone announcing a primary challenge, allowing the DNC to publicly say they will not get involved (vs support the incumbent as the usually do)

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While that might be necessary, I expect Biden to have at least two more Come-to-Jesus meetings with Sinema and Manchin, in which the president will not be wearing gloves.

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Your words to Manchin’s ears.

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I don’t know. We’ll have to ask Senator Sinema what she wants. Or is she still eating mud in the backyard?

I get your point. It doesn’t change my opinion. If she is willing to let all those nightmare scenarios play out because her tantrum didn’t pan out as she intended, she was never really a Democrat. That’s my point.

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