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This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1296022
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1296022
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Itâs a little late but Iâll take it. Something tells me these docs will not be kind to those blindly loyal to Trump.
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Cool.
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A federal appeals court on Tuesday upheld a lower courtâs ruling that the House of Representatives can see materials from the grand jury former special counsel Robert Mueller empaneled to investigate Russian election meddling.
Next Stop: The Supreme Court, where it will be blocked because the entire Congress didnât vote to sueâŚor some other âreason.â
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I am waiting for William Bar to respond with âyes, you may see them, but the Appeals Court said nothing about touching, possessing or reading them so the House of Representatives will have to be content with viewing from a safe 10-15 foot distanceâ. In any case off the Supremes we go!! Yet another calculated delay.
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Of course, now disBarr will say they were destroyed and that he acted appropriately ala Bloody Gina and the CIA interrogation/torture tapes. Thatâs just how they roll.
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/holds out coffee cup to catch leaks
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Well, the Fed courts have not been completely poisoned by the GOP appointees. Yet.
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I speculated that after Bidenâs Super Tuesday win the courts would double back and rule against Trump on a number of these legal matters relating to #trumprussia and impeachment to prepare for the next Democratic Administration. They only like âunitary executiveâ views when they favor GOP Presidents, not Democratic Presidents.
I listened to the oral argument on this case and was astounded at how nutty Neomi Rao was. She literally suggested that DOJ could refuse to abide by a court ruling and that there might not be a remedy in such an event, so the court might not be willing to step in and provide one (since Barr will ignore it anyway). Truly astounding. That is, btw, the strategy Barr may pursue.
Dems won this won 2-1 with Rao dissenting. Iâll bet DOJ goes directly to SCOTUS because the full appeals court will uphold the decision. I think SCOTUS will uphold the appeal.
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I think theyâll ask for the full appeals court so they can further delay. Itâs all about delay for these a$$holes.
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+1. Rao is a true trumpian. No integrety at all, just watch her flip and vote against everything Biden does as president.
The big tell here is that Judge Griffithâs (appointed by Bust II) rejected the âwe canât wade into this, its a political questionâ argument. Remember Griffith is a mormon extremely conservative âtorture memoâ judge who went with Judge Henderson in the McGhan case saying executive officials were immune from having subpeonas enforced.
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So Barr just announces the grand jury transcripts and related docs are in Trumpâs personal possession. Even if SCOTUS upholds Trump just refuses to release them. What are the courts going to do, cite Trump with contempt? Ha, Ha, ha, thatâs a good one! Trump is not subject to any laws, simply by virtue of the fact he canât be charged, arrested, or indicted (see OLC directive). If Trump says the House doesnât get them, they donât get them.
âI have them in a safe in the Lincoln Bedroom, and thatâs where theyâre staying.â
Whatâs anyone going to do about it, storm the White House and crack the safe?
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Donât worryâŚthe people hired to create a dictatorial authoritarian POTUS so that the plutocracy can own the WH will be sure to protect Trump fro the grand jury materials being providedâŚ
Theyâre already busy trying to upend long standing law regarding the limits of POTUS power to interfere with the structure and function of agencies that are purely statutory in their creation and natureâŚ
ETA: And the sheep over there are so fucking programmed that they think this is about making CFPB accountable? Limiting the firing of the head of CFPB to âfor causeâ isnât accountable? Despite âfor causeâ by definition meaning heâs being held accountable? They canât see that this is about the plutocracy wanting to buy the POTUSâs appointment so that a toady lickspittle is placed in charge of CFPB who will go soft on consumer abuses. THAT is where accountability fails: at the instant the dollar changes hands.
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If for no other reason than Judge Neomi Rao Moscow Mitch needs to be tarred, feathered and run out of DC on a rail.
Seriousy. Heâs done such damage to the country.
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Did the Watergate burglars have any children?
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We will not see then until after the election if ever; John Roberts will see to that.
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Yet being the operative word
Yes, Moscow Mitch needs to go. But he wasnât alone. Everyone who votes to confirm these unqualified people as federal judges should be held accountable.
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Rao is such a hack, I wonât dignify her by using the preface Judge.
Every time the House brings a legitimate investigatory case to the courts, she dissents on the basis that the House has impeachment as a way of keeping the President in line. Now that theyâre asking for information based on impeachment, she still dissents. This is hackery at its worst.
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