Census Official Assures ALEC Confab: You’ll Get Data For Redistricting Power Grab

A Census Bureau official told Republican legislators at a conservative confab last week that they’ll get the citizenship data they need to do a redistricting overhaul that will further entrench the GOP’s electoral advantages.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1243828

Let us hope that their sheer incompetence protects us once again.

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For states that want to go bankrupt defending yourselves in court, you’ll have the data.

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”So my advice is if you don’t want it turned over as part of discovery, you probably ought to get rid of it before you go home.”

Sounds like advice a mob lawyer would give to his client, doesn’t it? I don’t know why this was a conference rather than just a large-scale walk-talk around Mulberry Street.

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Superlawyer?

  1. Start by assuming impending litigation.

  2. Destroy materials you know will qualify as evidence and anticipate will be admissible as such.

That’s called advising people to commit a potential crime and is certainly advising them to commit spoliation, which opens the door for a judge permitting the jury to draw negative inferences from the absence of the materials and potentially from their destruction if there’s enough there to show that they existed and were destroyed. IOKIYAR

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“Start with the idea that you’re going to be sued,” Cleta Mitchell, a conservative super-lawyer, told attendees.

“Your notes from this conference and this workshop will probably be part of a discovery [in a future lawsuit],” she said, according to the Observer. “”So my advice is if you don’t want it turned over as part of discovery, you probably ought to get rid of it before you go home.”

Hmm, this smells a leetle bit misprisionish of felonyish: Misprision of felony - Wikipedia

ETA: of course, it is not felony to disenfranchise voters by bunching them into over-dense districts, nor even to strike them from the voter rolls via arbitrary transparently error-prone rules.

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With NO question on the Census Form for “Citizenship” HOW will they know who is and is not a citizen?

You CANNOT use “place of birth” as that would unconstitutionally exclude “naturalized citizens” and those born to American Citizen parents in other countries (who are automatically American Citizens.)

How will they determine FROM CENSUS DATA who is and is not a citizen?

I foresee ENDLESS constitutional challenges to this action considering that CENSUS DATA and ONLY Census Data can be used for “apportionment” (and Taxes) according to Article 1, Section 2 of the US Constitution.

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“Start with the idea that you’re going to be sued,” Cleta Mitchell, a conservative super-lawyer, told attendees.

Sorry, timeout here - what the hell is a super lawyer?

Hey, I didn’t write the article and it’s a fair question to ask.

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Exactly why this isn’t going to work out for them. They just want to look like they are doing something. Losers.

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The statement from Kathleen Styles, the head of the Bureau’s stakeholder relations, came amid a set of panels focused on redistricting at ALEC’s annual conference in Austin, the Texas Observer reported.

The Bureau’s stakeholder relations??? Who defined who those stakeholder’s are? Was that definition of what constitutes a stakeholder of the Census Bureau actually legal? Are the stakeholder’s not every resident in this country? Or are they just minority Republicans who want to redefine the definition of democracy in this country?

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“Panelists at the ALEC conference warned legislators broadly of the threat of lawsuits after the next round of redistricting, according to the Texas Observer report.”

Get in line

"So many researchers at the U.S. Department of Agriculture have refused to leave Washington that the agency now says it can’t afford the full buyouts it had offered them.

The USDA ordered hundreds of workers to relocate to the Kansas City area, about a thousand miles from Washington. Those who didn’t want to go could take early retirement with an incentive payment worth up to $25,000. "

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/usda-ers-buyouts-cuts_n_5d5bfa12e4b05f62fbd576bd

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Someone remind me again why we shouldn’t reboot the Nuremberg trials for these disgraceful scumbags infesting the government.

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The rest of us should secede if they do this, because they are not just grabbing power from the urban areas of their state, but also from the rest of us. Fuck this country to death. I’ve damn near had it.

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One able to plea tall motions in a single bound

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Can’t really think of a reason why not, but can most certainly think of lots of reasons why we should.

And the lawsuits, there can’t possibly be enough lawsuits on this crap, one at a time state by state, county by county lawsuits, just drown these fascist traitors in tear stained paper and tearful explanations to justify their hideousness.

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Don’t just illegally rig the redistricting with probably invalid data.

Destroy all the evidence that you did so.

It’s the Republican way.

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  1. The litigation should start now, before the data has been supplied.

  2. The Joe Biden theory–that Republicans are good guys temporarily intimidated by the guy they voted for and fanatically support–looks even more doubtful that it already looked, i.e., unfuckingbelievably doubtful.

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Hatch Act violation???

Thats wonderful…because you might not be doing something legal a lawyer says destroy the evidence

Or are they just minority Republicans who want to redefine the definition of democracy in this country?

^^^ This.

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