Catholic Authorities Decry Trump’s Recent Comments

In his first public statement, the new archbishop of Washington, D.C. called out President Donald Trump specifically, criticizing him for “diminishing our national life.”


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1239985

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Meanwhile the overwhelming majority of Catholic Bishops keep their mouths shut and march in lockstep with their fellow Republicans.

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Great to know. IF they can’t get to Trump they should start with William BARR.

I’m serious about that.

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A strong sentiment fatally weakened because the speaker couched it in the bland language used by every PR flak who ever licked a boot.

It’s not “telling truth to power” if it’s delivered in a form invented to shield the powerful from the embarrassment of their oppression.

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the time for silence is over

Ya think?

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True. I respect and admire people of faith speaking out against evil.

According to the Republican Party, though, there’s Man’s Law, then above that is God’s Law, and above all else is the Catholic Republican Law on the Supreme Court.

Unfortunately, me and the archbishop don’t matter.

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Good for this archbishop - but where is the rest of the Catholic leadership hiding? They should have been united in a strong condemnation of this administration’s treatment of immigrants. Trump’s policies violate all of the tenets of the Catholic faith about the treatment of the “least of these.”

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And more importantly, are they actually teaching this value to their congregations each week, or are they just filling time until the next supply of Christian Coalition pamphlets arrive to hand out?

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This is a Pandora’s Box these people are going to be sorry they ever opened.

I am not talking about this story.

I am talking about the silence before.this story.

Where Yall BEEN??? Antarctica?

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Too bad the Catholic leadership has lost a lot of credibility, generally speaking.

Although I’m not a Catholic, I met Archbishop Gregory several time when he was Bishop of the Belleville, IL Archdiocese in the mid-late 1990’s and have followed his career with some interest. He seems to be a very decent, somewhat progressive leader of the Church. And if he’s willing to call out Trump to any degree, I say “good.” We need more like him and fewer like Falwell.

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Where are the Catholics regarding the locked up children? Those in cages are probably 90% Catholic. Bishops should be protesting outside the camps. The only people with the guts to protest are the Jews. Where are the Christians? F’ing pieces of hypocritical shit.

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I’ll buy that the Catholic Church is serious when they come on the record and state that Mike Pence’s baptism is no longer considered valid by the Catholic Church, and thus that he is doomed to eternal damnation for having associated himself with Satan.

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Thanks, Kate!

I’m watching the Catholic bishops in PA and MI especially. I think Connor Lamb won his seat, in part, because the Bishop there started to emphasize labor and immigration issues and de-emphasize the anti-abortion efforts. Some denominations are fairly liberal, but my experience in the Methodist Church is that it is deeply divided on social/political issues so it is a big deal that they signed on to the Baltimore Ecumenical letter.

The more Dems figure out to pull the white RC and mainline Protestants back into the party by emphasizing (not changing) traditional Dem values, the better.

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Can religion save itself? Probably not, but it’s nice to see them trying.

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Fine. But what are evangelical ministers saying about Trump? It’s likely that they’re still saying he was chosen by God to give them the Supreme Court they want.

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Let me offer a little-used word:

Anomie

It means “normlessness”…and more pointedly, it means significant numbers of people with less incentive to follow norms. And one of those incentive-killers is filthy lucre/corruption by men at the top of nearly all social structures.

When The Squad is at the top of the morals-food-chain, this is admirable for the Squad…but it makes the “pious”, male bastards in positions requiring morality and integrity–like Barr, for example–look more like the vermin they are.

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There’s an “in” with Republican voters — promise to put a Protestant on the Court : - )

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I’m glad for this, Archbishop Gregory is a Pope Francis Catholic, in that he sees action on social issues as a priority rather than following the rules rigidly. The loudest voices in the Church, unfortunately, are Cardinal Burke Catholics, culture warriors against abortion and all pro-choice Catholics. The worst among them seem to worship the ground 45 walks on…

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I think the Archbishop and other leaders in the Catholic Church realize, though their comments are putatively directed at Trump, that nothing will change his mindset or approach to racial issues. He’s a lost cause. Their conversation is with the American people; at least that segment that listens to religious leaders and still have a spark of morality within them.

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