Yes, partisanship has changed everything – it isn’t really the Senate that matters as much as the Murdochs. Reports indicate that they are in play, though.
No confidence.
Put Senator Wariner in charge!
Yeah…we have Deb Fisher and Ben Sasse…they’ll get real riled up.
Screw the asshole. One more coverup coming up.
We did have hearts and minds. Then some cocksucker in HQ would blow everything we worked months to accomplish. “We must destroy the village in order to save it” or some other BULL PHUCKY stated from their air conditioned office behind dozens and dozen of guards and defenses, never once having the balls to venture near one of those villages. Frankly they’d have shit their pants if they got a very brief whiff of a village after a napalm attack.
Ben Sasse: “There’s obviously some very troubling things here.”
I don’t believe we ever had the hearts and minds of the Vietnamese people. They tolerated us because we brought enormous amounts of money into the impoverished country but we installed unpopular dictator after dictator on them in crooked election after crooked election to the point that they trusted no one. What I witnessed over in that god forsaken place is that we could turn their women into prostitutes and kill their men by the score and they accepted that but do not bad mouth Ho Chi Minh. Underlying all the chaos and brutal warfare was the idea that eventually he would unite the country and become the leader. That is why there was no esprit in the ARVN. When we launched Lam Son 719, the invasion of Laos, in January of '71 the idea was to set the best ARVN divisions against the NVA divisions that were heavily dug into the mountains on the road to Tchepone. Within days the invasion was halted, then it turned into a retreat and then a rout of the best ARVN airborne divisions we had trained for the prior ten years. The NVA were simply superior soldiers with the knowledge that nothing was more important to them than independence and freedom. As a member of an aviation company attached to the 101st for that debacle I came away with the knowledge that it was only a matter of time until the NVA and the Viet Cong won the long, long war for independence. I have nothing but respect for the fighting prowess and dedication of the NVA as they endured everything this most powerful nation on earth could throw at them. During Lam Son every fast mover in the country and on the carriers off shore was thrown into the battle. Must have been traffic jams up there as we inserted and extracted the hapless ARVN down below with our slow old helicopters. It was the end of the war but another couple of years of massive killing had to happen before the evacuation of the embassy went down. We lost to a superior force.
Well, it certainly ‘sounds’ like LBJ but unfortunately no one has been able to nail down where and when he actually said it. It has also been attributed to Theodore Roosevelt, among others. And, of course, we all know about Charles Colson’s little wallhanger. So I don’t know where it came from originally. Would appreciate a cite.
“Book 'im, Danno”
(oops, wrong show… )
Say it, brother.
“The committee is committed to make sure that we get to the bottom of what questions we need answers,” Burr said.
He warned that the committee would not be moving at “light speed” like its counterpart in the House, but said the committee staff will be “extremely busy for the next couple weeks” while the Senate is on recess.
So they’re gonna slow walk it?
Good luck w/that.
Reminder that Sen Burr was the mole on SSCI who ferried info to the WH wrt Mueller’s investigation (Nunes was the mole on HPSCI).
Cc @tierney
If you have to ask then the answer is yes.
I really wish reporters / editors would include this one bit of ever so useful context when reporting anything about Burr (R-Mole) doing any investigating of Team Treason.
“Sen Richard Burr (R), the White House mole on SSCI during the Mueller investigation, yada yada yada.”
Why they ignore this I don’t know.
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Cc @tierney
yeah, kinda begs the question…depends, right? I mean, Chipotle or SweetGreens? Makes all the difference…
Just saying, but I think we got at least one “bottom” with Donnie two scoops, depending on how you like to count. Two sections of the Mueller Report and a WB report confirmed with a released summary of a call.
Not saying that there is not more, but it might better said that if you are looking for a true bottom to the corruption, there ain’t one. So, may be Burr and the rest of them should just go with what they got.
Oh yeah, Burr might find himself mixed in at that bottom, a tad problematic.
His stature among his Republican peers lies in the fact that he cleans up good and talks like a football coach.
I’m talking '65 while you are talking '71, so I’ll stay with my understanding. I would frequently have a meal with the village mayor, pizzed off the MP’s but they could not do anything about it even when I walked out to my jeep after curfew as I was a guest of the village leaders. I remember once noting to the mayor that I had not seen his neighbor in a few weeks, he smiled and said that is because he is away at the fighting as an officer in the Viet Minh. At the time most people I spoke with believed that the Viet Minh were fighting a civil war against exactly those forces of corruption you mention. They did not have a problem with neighbors on differing sides as long as they did so away from home. The US had no business being in that war as that was exactly what it was a civil war. A war that we helped bring on ourselves based on our promises to Ho for his help during WWII. Promises we made to many throughout the world, then promises we welshed on each and every time. The Americans liked Ho and the Viet Minh and were impressed by their enthusiasm and ability to learn quickly. They knew Ho was a Communist it made no difference as long as they resisted the Japanese. Many new weapons (bazookas, submachine guns) as well as radio sets and OSS instructors were parachuted to them so that certain of the guerrilla units soon gained an appreciable amount of combat strength and efficiency. These groups were promised that the US would side with their aims of independence when the war ended, at the same time we promised Charles de Gaulle that they would help the French regain their “empire”. So the stage was set for a civil war (war of independence) and we foolish as usual were playing bothsiderism.
Good post, tm - please write the above to the mainstream media outlets of your choice. It’s reporters who should be asking ‘Senator, why do you support the violation of the emoluments clause? Congressman, why do you condone the presidents denigration of America’s intelligence service? Sir, why do you support the president’s calls to violence against those who disagree with him?’
The Press applies no pressure,nor educates the public, that’s part of the reason why we are here today.
We’re talking about the same thing here amigo. What I experienced in '71 was just a continuation of the mood you witnessed in '65. There was no loyalty to Saigon so it was very hard to develop a fighting attitude in the ARVN soldiers. Ho Chi Minh and Vo Nguyen Giap did not turn towards communism until America betrayed them at the end of WW2 by turning loose Japanese POWs and arming them if they would fight the Viet Minh in northern Viet Nam to protect the colonial interests of the French. In Ho’s famous words, “I can’t imagine the USA would betray us like this. It would be so un-American of them.” Of course he being a big student of Jeffersonian policies he imagined that the USA really was about democracy and not mostly about capitalism. It was a civil war, a war for independence from colonial rulers and we should not have gotten involved. Had Eisenhouer demanded that the elections mandated by the Geneva Accords be held in '56 the Vietnamese people would have voted for re-unification with Ho Chi Minh as their leader. Ike was caught in the middle of the anti-communist McCarthy era and could not be seen as the president who lost Indochina. We lost to a superior fighting force that had higher ideals and no way home until the war was won.
The committee is committed to make sure that we get to the bottom
Dear Idiots,
You, we, they are already at the bottom.
good luck with that dream weaving
I have no confidence in any Republican.
Their Party exists to be supreme. Look at the courts.