Bragg Pushes to Keep Trump Hush Money Case Alive, Whatever It Takes

But that would spoil the far-right’s glorious return to power!

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I got an idea. Why not let Donald Trump serve several months in prison before January 20th? Ok, it is not going to happen.

But, yeah, it is weird we have a convicted felon as “our” President. And, I bet there are going to be a lot more unanswered legal questions by the end of 4 years too. Seems to go with Donald Trump’s legal territory.

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Off topic: Putin sets stage for nuclear war angst over Ukraine war, and, yes he’s contemplating a nuclear retaliatory strike in response to Ukraine firing off 4-5 missles that didn’t hit targets.
Guess who gets to swoop in and save planet earth? None other than our own trump. Wow. That’s what’s happening on the international/apocolyptic/messianic maniac front today, imho.

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You can hope all you want, and it might even happen.

I think the most likely outcome of a fatal MI or CVA before December 6 is that JD Vance is elected President by the Electoral College. A fatal MI or CVA between December 6 and January 20 would result in Vance’s succession per the Constitution.

If Vance is elected by the EC, I’m not sure if Harris or Walz gets the VP nod. I think they have to select someone, and they can’t vote for Vance for both offices. If they simply didn’t vote for a VP, then I think the Blue state electors would carry the day. They’d definitely be caught in a bind. If they somehow managed to not elect a VP Vance would have to nominate a new VP for Senate confirmation per Section 2 of the XXV Amendment.

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The records were for his personal business, not government business, so cannot be seen as official acts of the president (at least if you care about the law). And the things he did that led to those records were done before he took office. There’s just no way anyone can look at this and consider it an official act of a president…if they really are going to that then the presidency is a way to get away with literally any crime imaginable, at any time in their life. That just makes no sense at all.

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I wish I could laugh at this but I can’t….

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It does get to the “what’s official conduct?” question that the SC seemed deliberately to leave open. It’s so hard to imagine anyone claiming those acts as anything remotely official. Yet, we’re in these weird times.

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I’m with ya. But…this Supreme Court. Right? Uncomfortably uncertain that the law or even reality would matter in the test.

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Why should sentencing wait until after he leaves office. He was convicted prior to winning re-election. He should be sentenced NOW. If he can’t conduct the business of POTUS from prison, his VP can step in.

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No one has mentioned it won’t happen but if Trump can run in 2028 at 82 years old so can Barack Obama unless the Supreme court says it only applies to white guys over 80 years old…

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If Judge Merchan sentences Trump to 4 years in prison, and Trump is jailed pending appeal, then SCOTUS can overturn him and try to enforce their blatantly fraudulent miscarriage of justice with the complete and utter lack of support of the American Public. Maybe JD will have the stones to try and force the issue, but I have a feeling that his paymasters would prefer Trump in jail and their puppet in POTUS.

But all of this is moot, because Democrats and the Justice System have demonstrated that they will NOT defend the United States or pursue justice.

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We win!!!

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Complete the sentencing, then stay it until he is out of office. One side effect… the conviction cannot be appealed until he’s been sentenced. The appeal should go ahead, and if sanity prevails, the conviction should stand. As has been pointed out, the conduct is pretty convincingly not official, and therefore not immune, and not pardonable.

No one is above the law. The trial happened and the jury has spoken. It can’t just be dismissed.

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That is the reason why I think the sentencing should happen, so the appeals go forward. It of course would damage Trump to have those news articles come along, but it would also put the Supreme Court on the spot…are they really willing to give Trump a pass for conduct that is obviously not part of his presidential duties? We should know, so we understand how the presidency is supposed to work from now on…I suspect a lot of people who might be fine with Trump being king will have trouble if it’s someone else.

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Stay tuned!!! :rofl:

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I would like to see a peaceful protest in DC on January 6, akin to the Women’s March of 2016.

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I don’t see how that’s possible unless Trump serves less than even a year as President - New York law explicitly says sentencing may be deferred no more than 12 months following conviction, and no more than is ‘reasonable’ - which this certainly isn’t even if it weren’t 12 greater than 12 months.

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Adding:

Make it clear he’s on “work release” to serve as President. And order him to wear an ankle monitor while he’s not in prison.

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Interestingly Eugene Debs ran for president as a socialist in the 1920 election. He got nearly a million votes. The kicker was he was in prison at the time. There is nothing in the Constitution preventing an incarcerated criminal from seeking office. I agree acting as president would be tough while in jail but the possabiity exists… assuming “immunity” did not exist. Just imagine trump being treated as the criminal he is.

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And adding a bit more:

If Trump was jailed between now and inauguration, the obvious course would be to have J.D. Vance take over transition oversight until then. That’s what he’s there for, right, if Trump isn’t able to serve for any reason. That would give everyone a better idea how Vance would act as President of Trump strokes out. Plus, it would almost certainly create (more) animosity between Vance and Trump’s current picks and powers-behind-the-curtain, and chaos in the process itself.

(Has anyone seen Vance lately? It feels like he’s dropped completely off the radar, especially since Musk and RFKjr joined Trump at the hip. Where would they keep the buckets of warm spit? Wonder if he’s even going to get an invite to the inauguration?)

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