Former Vice President Joe Biden appeared to downplay his fourth-place finish in last week’s Iowa caucuses during an interview on CBS News the day before the New Hampshire primary.
If Joe gets delegates and Amy K doesn’t, NH becomes a tactical win for Joe. He’ll effectively boot Amy K out of the race because no one in NV/SC is going to vote for a candidate with 1 delegate to her name. If Pete manages to tie down Bernie but doesn’t win, even better for Joe b/c Bernie doesn’t get the juice out of his first two home games that he should have and Pete’s bubble starts to deflate a bit. Then, all Joe has to do is stay funded and work on winnowing the center left lane so he can consolidate the vote.
Anyone who is a Boomer knows what the “Truckin’ t-Shirt” looks like.
I used to wear mine a lot…(was it Eddie Kendricks who did the single?)
“Biden replied that ‘we are just getting into the game here’…”
That’s crazy talk!
A whole 40 delegates – out of 4,000 – are already pledged.
It’s ‘Game Over,’ man.
My wife told me just now that “the news” said that Pete won IA. Any word on that?
Last time I checked, Pete won. Isn’t Sanders demanding another recount tho?
The horserace is as dreary as it is seemingly interminable. Just get on with it.
According to the WaPo, they announced Sunday that Pete would take 14 delegates to Bernie’s 12, so yes. Sanders has requested a recanvass of the tallies.
Why not?
NOTHING has been decided yet, even after NH Primary.
Super Tuesday is when the rubber actually hits the road. THAT is the date where people drop out.
They can take their time counting until the convention. Nobody cares, especially after NH.
Time to open the glue factory doors…
It’s the “New” New Math…
The eight-year vice-president, three-time presidential candidate with universal name recognition who’s had an overwhelming lead in the polls for a year is “just getting into the game here”?
Weak.
If he doesn’t start to have more success by the time SC and NV come around his donors are going to become sparse.
At this point, I’m coming around from acceptance on Josh’s logic about “so where’s the collapse” about him to growing annoyance and impatience with him because the collapse I was expecting and predicted is happening and at the worst possible time.
Merely by being Obama’s VP, Joe sucked up all of the media oxygen and big donor money from smart, tough credible center left candidates like Harris, Booker and Castro who should have been exciting us, notwithstanding his really shitty record with presidential campaigns. That record, and, let’s be frank, the fact that he’s notably aged, drew in all of the other zero chance darkest dark horses who further degraded the chances of the people who should have been the the top tier competitors for the votes of the people who weren’t natural Bernie or Warren voters.
If he goes through Super Tuesday, sure as anything, he gets enough delegates to keep Bernie from winning the nomination, but not enough to keep Bernie from going into open convention well short of a majority but with a plurality. And that is the worst case fucking scenario because if Bernie has a plurality that’s like, 32%, as far as the Berners are concerned, any outcome other than a nomination of Bernie will be the greatest atrocity since Pol Pot. But, by the same token, at the point of a second ballot, all of the hard work Bernie and his team have put into insulting, enraging and alienating the DNC, Democratic office holders and mainstream Democratic voters and constituencies generally will almost certainly bear the predictable harvest.
And then we’re in first class shitshow dumpster fire territory, and on the road to reelecting Trump.
Another lie, big bunch of headaches
Pretty dismal results for Biden in today’s Quinnipiac poll, and a very strong showing for Bernie.
And yeah, it’s a national poll and we don’t have a national primary. That being said, I’d much rather be in Bernie’s shoes there than Biden’s.
Also, Bloomberg has gained a lot, but is still way behind. His main effect at this point seems to be further dividing the “moderate lane” and cutting into Biden and Buttigieg’s support, which is helping Bernie.
Hmmm…I thought Bloomberg got into this race in large part to try to block Bernie,
Sure doesn’t seem to be working out that way. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Remember, in 2016 Bloomberg threatened to run as a third-party candidate if Bernie became the nominee. So if things keep going the way they are in this primary race, does Bloomberg pull the plug on his primary candidacy? And if so does he end up running as a third party candidate as he threatened to last time – despite his pledge this time to spend big to support the Dem candidate no matter who that is? Or, if Bernie wins the nomination, does Bloomberg keep his promise to spend hundreds of millions to help defeat Trump, even though his least-favorite candidate becomes the Democratic nominee, or does he break his promise, take his bat and ball and go home and sulk?
If Bloomberg stays in and somehow manages to be the last one standing against Bernie, that’s pretty much a wet dream for Bernie’s campaign – running against a billionaire who fulfills all of Bernie’s rhetoric about billionaires trying to buy elections, who can’t really use the “but Bernie’s not a real Democrat” argument since the billionaire in question has switched parties multiple times and actually endorsed Bush over Kerry and helped Republicans hold the Senate by pouring money into Toomey’s campaign. Oh, and with that billionaire starting from a position where he’s already way behind in the delegate race due to him having skipped all the early contests!
So…is Bloomberg actually trying to get Bernie nominated, or is his campaign just shaping up as an incredibly counter-productive self-own?
From Josh…today
[" I had also hoped Bernie would have become the elder statesman for the left flank of the excoriate and worked toward those goals in a different way but that is not who he is."]
Sanders was never “Elder Statesman” material. He was and is a zealot.
I remember when the TPM first story ran about a Sanders 2020 run. The tenor of the comments was overwhelmingly negative and ran from rage, foreboding, dread and a fatalistic resignation of the same thing happening in 2020 as in 2016.
So many of us lamented his candidacy because we knew he always falls apart in presidential races and yet would eat up all the money and spotlight until he did. Here we are and the most predictable part of Joe’s candidacy is upon us.
If people don’t see that the real problem is the money, I don’t know what to tell them. Harris, Castro and Booker would still be viable if the lack of money didn’t push them out. All 3 are far better candidates than Joe, but everyone knew Joe and he was VP, what could go wrong. SMH.