Biden Compares Trump To Nazi Propaganda Minister: ‘He’s Sort Of Like Goebbels’ | Talking Points Memo

I know Harry Reid was a boxer. Do you have any citations about Joe Biden boxing? My google searches are coming up empty.

ETA: Joe was a good athlete in his youth. He was a football star and played baseball too. Everything Trump wishes he’d been. :joy:

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Biden has a natural warmth, a good sense of humor and a beautiful smile. Those are the things that endear him to people. Trump has none of those things. He is glacially cold, what he usually tries to pass off as humor is actually undiluted cruelty, and his smile almost always looks forced (on those are occasions when he tries it).

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He would have done it if he could have. :laughing:

Sometimes people cite Godwin’s Law, claiming that the first person to bring up Hitler loses the argument, but that’s not at all how Mike Godwin formulated it.

Godwin’s Law: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches certainty.”

In 2015, Goddwin had this to say: “If you’re thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler when you talk about Trump, or any other politician.”

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I wish Joe had not gone there…

Comparing Trump and his ilk to Nazis is sort of like getting into a mud wrestling match with a pig… You end up getting dirty and bruised and the pig likes it.

I’m glad he went there. We must stop pussyfooting around what we are all seeing.

@blandsten just posted the following twitter thread in The Hive. It is a profound illustration of what could be if we don’t talk about the comparisons.

Most people who know the name Sophie Scholl know she was a 21 year old German student activist who was executed by the Nazis for distributing anti-Nazi pamphlets on her college campus. But people don’t talk about what happened leading up to her execution, or what happened after. pic.twitter.com/z66yUW29q7

— Libby (@libbyjones715) September 24, 2020

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Sophie and her brother Hans were caught by a university janitor named Jakob Schmid as they distributed pamphlets in a courtyard. He grabbed them, declared them “under arrest,” and turned them over to the Gestapo. pic.twitter.com/QGQGDtZecc

— Libby (@libbyjones715) September 24, 2020

Four days of interrogations later, they were in front of Nazi judge Roland Freisler (one of Hitler’s favorites, his “hanging judge” flown in from Berlin) for a show trial that Hans and Sophie’s parents weren’t allowed in the courtroom for. pic.twitter.com/VZIOwPm5Fv

— Libby (@libbyjones715) September 24, 2020

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Hans, Sophie, and their friend Christoph Probst were all found guilty of treason, sentenced to death, and beheaded a few hours later.

— Libby (@libbyjones715) September 24, 2020

No one talks about this janitor, Jakob Schmid. He got a cash reward and a promotion for turning in Sophie and Hans. The University of Munich threw him a celebration. Hundreds of students attended and cheered for him. He thanked them with a Nazi salute.

— Libby (@libbyjones715) September 24, 2020

After the war, Jakob Schmid was arrested and put on a trial of his own. He said he only turned the Scholls in because distributing pamphlets was against university policy - it wasn’t because of the content of the pamphlets. pic.twitter.com/uXdCTUzAoN

— Libby (@libbyjones715) September 24, 2020

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When you think of Nazis, you probably think of uniformed officers. But the Nazis were a political party of everyday people. So also think of a janitor tsk-tsking that someone wasn’t protesting “the right way.” A student at rally applauding him. A judge towing the party line.

— Libby (@libbyjones715) September 24, 2020

We like to tell ourselves Nazi Germany was so horrific it could never be repeated. Maybe you don’t personally know someone who would have flipped the switch on the gas chambers. But I can almost guarantee you know a Jakob Schmid.

— Libby (@libbyjones715) September 24, 2020
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John Baron/Miller is no Mussolini.

I’ll measure Biden’s debate success according to how fast Pres. Pus Pillow cancels the rest of the debates.

And I’m still struggling with some network news foof who this week chided Speaker Pelosi for referring to Trump’s “henchmen.”

No apologies for that one.

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Has anyone else noticed how the Far Right has increased biker violence? There has been another “festival” in Iowa where someone was killed and seven wounded. It’s like all the thugs feel that they can kill even each other and Trump will pardon them.

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Or get a Nobel Prize even before taking office. Times and the dangerous situation for our democracy now faces have changed.

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Oh, nooo! Biden implied that Trump’s a Nazi! (It’s OK for the entire GOP to paint Democrats as Communists, buy y’know IOKIYAR.)

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Yes, him too!

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Trump will most likely respond with, “Who?”

However, many on his staff are competent - corrupt as all get out, but competent. For example, Stephen Miller-chief advisor in racism and fascism, and Bill Barr-prosecutor of the innocent to protect the corrupt.

Goebbels?? Really??
Knock it off, Joe. Tell the geniuses at the DNC to stuff it with this kind of stupid advice.
Concentrate solely on the failed promises and policies: the fact that there will be 250,000 dead from the virus by Nov 3rd, the fact that millions are still out of work, the fact that he is packing the Court with Leo & McCahn’s best right-wing lick-spittles, the fact that he has been attempting to give away millions of acres of public land to well-connected friends and cronies, the fact that he has been running a shell game with emoluments since day one, the fact that four of his last five campaign managers have been criminally indicted and several convicted, the fact that the AG is functioning as an adjunct of his re-election campaign…Do we really need to go on?

That is the only way the Italians were finally able to get rid of Berlusconi after three terms – concentrate on the policies, skewer the failed promises, but ignore the man. Let him stew in his own juices.

Also while you’re at it – get with the Latino vote for godsake, starting with the I-4 corridor in Florida. Thousands of displaced Puerto Ricans from the hurricane – in and around Orlando 400,000 and climbing.

Here’s a good quote to take home to Perez and the DNC brain trust, from the Tampa Bay Times:

“If it were a state, I-4 would be the size of Virginia. Winning Tampa Bay alone is akin to winning Arizona.”

…when asked by MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle about Trump’s assertion that Biden is pushing a socialist agenda…

See? The “Trump Effect” in action! Why the fuck is a somewhat able reporter asking and parroting Trump’s brain dead assertion? To give it the old “both sides” college try and normalize all things Trump? Joe Biden should have tongue lashed her for this inane question and asked her if she conceivably thought he had a “socialist agenda”, or just refused to answer her backwash!

Biden should follow saying “He doesn’t know anything!” with “Daddy bought him his real estate and Putin bought him the White House!” Then see what happens!

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Yeah that describes Trump exactly.

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Ummmmm…Berlusconi had 4 governments (over 3 time periods) and he’s currently Italy’s Member of the European Parliament (elected in 2019)

Berlusconi’s still in power making messes with his Forza Italia party. He’s not gone by a long shot…

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