Former Vice President Joe Biden called Friday for the release of the transcript of President Donald Trump’s call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as well as the whistleblower’s testimony, so the American people can “judge for themselves.”
Good on Joe. Good on Beto.
A couple of items that somewhat relate, or are, maybe, off topic.
But Her(His) Emails, Part Deux, the Vogelfanger Runs Amok!
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1175397983761948674
The insight of the outside observer, An Australian Reporter
In most circumstances, presenting information in as intelligible a form as possible is what we are trained for. But the shock I felt hearing half an hour of unfiltered meanderings from the president of the United States made me wonder whether the editing does our readers a disservice.
I’ve read so many stories about his bluster and boasting and ill-founded attacks, I’ve listened to speeches and hours of analysis, and yet I was still taken back by just how disjointed and meandering the unedited president could sound. Here he was trying to land the message that he had delivered at least something towards one of his biggest campaign promises and sounding like a construction manager with some long-winded and badly improvised sales lines.
I’d understood the dilemma of normalising Trump’s ideas and policies – the racism, misogyny and demonisation of the free press. But watching just one press conference from Otay Mesa helped me understand how the process of reporting about this president can mask and normalise his full and alarming incoherence.
Yes but if this turns into a Biden v. Trump thing, its promise will dissipate. It needs to be everyone who believes in the rule of law v. Trump, from the intelligence services, to Trump’s own appointees.
But…but…he is saying exactly what I am thinking.
Trump Supporter
A person who’s doing the right thing will never say everyone else is doing it.
Good on Joe. Keep this on Trump and tell the reporters to keep it there too. Too easy for most of them to turn it on the Dem
Pence is up to his eyeballs in this as well. This piece is dated Sept. 10.
https://www.justsecurity.org/66101/trump-and-giulianis-quest-for-fake-ukraine-dirt-on-biden-an-explainer/
And he is not as good a dissembler as Trump.
Church-pious don’t cut it.
Ms. Lenore writes:
In most circumstances, presenting information in as intelligible a form as possible is what we are trained for. But the shock I felt hearing half an hour of unfiltered meanderings from the president of the United States made me wonder whether the editing does our readers a disservice.
I’ve read so many stories about his bluster and boasting and ill-founded attacks, I’ve listened to speeches and hours of analysis, and yet I was still taken back by just how disjointed and meandering the unedited president could sound.
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And finally concludes:
I’d understood the dilemma of normalising Trump’s ideas and policies – the racism, misogyny and demonisation of the free press. But watching just one press conference from Otay Mesa helped me understand how the process of reporting about this president can mask and normalise his full and alarming incoherence.
Trump, the contemptible pantload, is a moron as well a criminal. It’s those around him who protect him; from “bothsiderist” “journalists” to his henchmen now being paid by the U.S. taxpayer to destroy our Republic.
Biden needs to amp this up as a litmus test for every candidate on the Democratic primary side, as well as POTUS Obama himself, Senate Minority Leader Schumer and Speaker Pelosi. The should be the Democratic Party vs. Trump and Pence. They should all demand Trump’s fat orange head on a platter.
I don’t think Biden should make this about himself but rather about the rule of law and an unlawful preznit being protected by lawless toadies at the top of our gov’t. The more Biden personalizes the attacks, the more he encourages the MSM to make the story about him (which they will do, particularly the NYT, as they did when it came to bogus stories about Hillary). The fact is the timeline about Hunter Biden doesn’t match with whatever it is tRump is claiming is wrong, and it doesn’t have a thing to do with his father.
The truth is that tRump is beholden to Putin and is still doing his bidding as it relates to Ukraine. The media needs to keep their focus on the interference in our 2020 elections by tRump using the same tactics he did before in a much more brazen form but with the exact same objectives. The difference now is he’s doing it with all the levers of our gov’t at his disposal and using our tax dollars as his private piggy bank to exact a price by way of extortion from a foreign leader who he wants to smear his opponent. This is the Clinton Foundation all over again all while tRump was actually ripping off donors from his own personal foundation and university.
I don’t think he’s a moron. He really is in some stage of dementia. And reporters and others insist on parsing his words so they can pretend he’s making sense. (I remember doing this with the meandering things my grandmother said in her early 80s when we were still resisting the idea of putting her in a nursing home.)
We’ll agree to disagree. That he’s been successful in avoiding prison doesn’t mean he’s smart, it just means that the wealth he inherited from his father has kept him insulated from having to bear the repercussions of his crimes.
He’s a poor businessman, is an admitted non-reader (a failing that’s not age related), has never been eloquent about anything, merely verbose in promoting himself, and has never shown an understanding of history, philosophy, or the sciences.
There’s no evidence of him being anything other than a corrupt dope, albeit a vicious one.
A cunning, corrupt dope.
I suspect you can agree to agree – this the Miller Lite “Less Filling - Tastes Great” argument. There is a difference though: the beer commercials were two lies for the price of one, while in this case you’re definitely correct and @paulw is likely also correct.
There are a lot of signs of dementia surrounding Don the Con.
He is seemingly afflicted with a deteriorating mind. Whether that’s due to the cumulative effects of his “heroic battle” with STDs or suggests the onset of Alzheimer’s is beyond me.
But he was never that bright to start.
Morons get dementia too.
It’s often harder to tell with them.
Someone’s been changing Trump’s nappies for awhile. At one time, It may been an erotic fetish of his. Now it’s just a full-time job.
I have long thought that Trump would be way better off to resign now, while he can enjoy the coddling of the corrupt administration he created. Barr will certainly do everything in (and beyond) his power to quash any DoJ actions, and no doubt come up with some bogus legal opinion to obstruct prosecutions by the states. Trump could (still) walk away from this were it not for his narcissism and monumental stupidity.