Biden Announces Support For Abortion Rights Filibuster Exception - TPM – Talking Points Memo

President Joe Biden on Thursday announced his support for the Senate to create an exception to the filibuster in order to codify abortion rights into federal law. 


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Way to go, Joe! Now Dems, make it happen!

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Give 'em hell, Joe. Rally the troops! Time to summon people to the Oval Office for a “little sit-down meeting.” Negotiate so hard that you put LBJ to shame.

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Unless Manchin had changed his position, this is completly DOA. Not sure what Biden is attempting here.

Burning Collins’ ass, and the ass of every other GOP senator up for re-election in a close state?

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This is a big fucking deal. Go, Joe!

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It’s absurd to do this for abortion rights but not for voting rights.

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I’m for anything that weakens or chips away at the filibuster, so 2 cheers for Biden here. But I am disappointed that Biden, along with Schumer and the rest of the D. Senate leadership, don’t go all the way for complete abolition. It’s got to happen, and sooner rather than later.

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I agree, but when people see how many exceptions we need to codify basic human rights of all kinds, the momentum might shift. It’s ridiculous to require a supermajority for every bit of legislation. All the exceptions might make that obvious to die-hards.

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Three things.

First, many voters, especially the numbnut Swingers, lack the imagination to believe a thing can happen or fail to happen and have to be shown, not told, before they’re open to more drastic actions like Court expansion.

Second, the Democratic base, through the joint efforts of the Green Lantern Do Something faction of the actual Democrats and the accelerationist ratfucker faction of the left, are in the process of demoralizing itself with despair porn and Murc’s Law attacks on themselves and on Biden.

Third, he is fighting back against the MSM’s resort to the Dems in Disarray narrative.

The MSM asshats have been frantic since Dobbs because it is impossible to cram the story into their default Bothsides Narrative. The Bothsides narrative, which presents Bothsides as symmetrically polarized with an equal distribution curve between moderates and radicals, is the foundation of the modern MSM’s culture. It defines their understanding of their job and is the basis of their entire understanding of what it means to be “fair,” both as a matter of professional ethics and as a means of resisting and dismissing valid criticism as the carping of partisans who are only mad at it for beings so fair. As we saw throughout the Trump regime, they will ignore entire segments of a story, and often entire stories, and reshape reality as necessary to make it fit into the assigned slots of that frame because their whole group identify depends upon it.

But the Dobbs story, in a way even Trump’s mental illness and the open descent of the GOP into overt sado-authoritarianism did not, defies the Bothsides framing. The opinion itself is so radical, and is so widely understood as radical by women and some men they can’t make it fit. They are unable to find any voices to support it that aren’t jarringly obvious in their freakishness. They end up highlighting that the whole “Right to Life” movement is powered by misogynistic White Men glorying in their recovery of control over women’s lives or God Bothered Aunt Lydias while Democrats are the voice of the vast majority of Americans.

And whenever that happens, their next step is to try to cram the story into the Horserace Narrative, turn it into an electoral process story that elides the moral or political stakes, portraying the issue as just one more element in the Big Fun Funny Fun Fun Game we call “politics.” But Dobbs resists that, as well. Because it directly touches more than half the country and implicates issues relevant even to straight white men whose privilege is to them as water is to a fish and are clueless to the level of hypervigilant fear women live in in our society even under the best of circumstances. And, worse still, because it is threatening to disrupt the already agreed Big Republican Turnover sub-narrative.

And so, that has left them frantically grasping at the final culturally acceptable narrative form: Democrats in Disarray! Oh, those silly, squabbling Democrats. To do that, they’ve openly cast off all the usual standards and embraced the Fox rhetorical forms of “Some People Say,” and “Critics Say” without really even bothering to hide it. And, in the process, they are, of course, necessarily amplifying the accelerationist ratfuckers.

What will the MSM do if it’s last narrative ditch is denied to them? Probably just make shit up and latch on to the Republican flacks laboring manfully-and I mean that literally-to normalize Dobbs. What’s been obvious is that their inability to fit this SCOTUS term and the Jan6 hearings into the Bothsides frame has left them almost frantic, and has made their editors, the guardians and enforcers of the agreed narratives, increasingly befuddled and capricious.

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At a NATO news conference in Madrid? Come on Dems, that’s really weak and a perfect example of why Dems are always losing. Would a Republican president announce a major change on a hot issue thousands of miles away? No is the short answer. Dems need to ask themselves: “What would Republicans do?”.

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That’s where Biden is located this week. You want to complain about the color of his suit, too?

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He’s doing exactly what Josh Marshall and others have asked him to do: making a specific promise that if Dems hold the house and get two more Senate seats they will codify Roe into law.

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And where are the votes going to come from?
Be specific.
Show your work.

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Advocating that Dems behave like Republicans is not exactly a smart idea.

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They should announce they’re for it and run on it until they get it done. These things take time, but you don’t get there until you actually start. See “Roe v. Wade, overturning of.”

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No, I just want Dems to do better. The current leadership is too old, too nice and too rooted in the politics of when they were young. Time for them to go.

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I’m not saying the should emulate Republicans, but Dems need to better understand how Republicans operate.

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He might as well support breathing underwater, it’s not going to happen.

Republicans seem to be getting everything they want, and Democrats are getting shit. You might want to rethink that.