Originally published at: As Trump Touts Plans For Immigrant Roundup, Militias Are Standing Back, But Standing By
This article is part of TPM Cafe, TPM’s home for opinion and news analysis. It was originally published at The Conversation. President-elect Donald Trump has reaffirmed that once he takes office he plans to declare a national emergency and use the military on American streets to accomplish his promises to round up and deport millions of undocumented…
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TSF’s disdain for the laws and the constitution are going to be clearly evident in the next few years. It’s an open question if our institutions will hold up against the non-stop assault. Whatever happens, I think we will be a different nation by 2028.
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I support mass deportation. I agree if you are illegal immigrant, you broke the law & meet the very definition of a criminal. I’m very sad that a felon will be in charge of deport illegal immigrants. I don’t agree that families should be split & agree with Homan entire family can be deported.
The corporations in hospitality, construction, agriculture & service industry who are committing crimes by hiring illegal immigrants should incur hefty fines & have mandatory fine of $20 hour minimum wage imposed as restitution to community.
Mar a Largo & all his golf courses hire illegals as staff & have done so for many years. The felon needs to step up & show true leadership by rounding up all his illegal employees first.
Dreamers who have been here illegally as children brought by parents should apply for citizenship.
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You support radical mass chaos, the outcome of a violent upheaval of a functioning system hammered out over a century. You would rely on someone who doesn’t give a fat rat’s fanny about any damned law to carry out the law asap.
Good luck.
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Trump’s ratio* in US immigration law commands that it is better that ten innocent people suffer than that one undocumented immigrant escape. Let the pogrom begin.
* Apologies to William Blackstone
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Militias cannot wait to legally shoot down unarmed women and children.
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We are going to be a different nation by 2028. Climate Hell is roaring down on us. The cost of not caring about the ecosystem that sustains us will be overwhelming.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
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Daughter-in-law came to this country when a child, has citizenship and has gone to law school. Grand-daughter-in-law is daca, in nursing school currently. 4 cousins, each of them adopted during WWII, are Asian, are citizens by virtue of Sen. Barry Goldwater’s assistance, one an attorney, one a child psychologist, one in finance, one a construction worker. Immigrants made and are good for this country. I oppose in any way I can any effort to obstruct their presence.
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Both of my parents immigrated after WWII via a program negotiated between the governments of the US and the Netherlands. The waiting list for immigration stretched more than a decade although my parents’ names came up in 3 years after signing up. The US has always been stingy when it comes to admitting foreigners. In fact, some of my relatives went to Canada instead because it was a lot easier to gain admittance and they were much more welcoming.
The main thing, though, is that as hard as the economy, jobs, housing, etc. were after the war in Holland, my parents were not homeless, hungry, or in danger. That cannot be said of so many trying to reach our shores, be they Hispanic/Latino, Asian, or African - or now, Ukrainian.
I feel like we have a lot of room to be much more compassionate to immigrants, refugees, and our own people. The “I got mine, Jack” mentality is so tiresome and incredibly destructive.
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So what documents would satisfy a gun toting nut case that the bearer is in fact a citizen? Am I gonna need to carry a driver’s license, passport, and my birth certificate plus a copy of the Constitution? Or will my skin color suffice?
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That is a great question because, by law, we are not required to carry personal IDs or proof of citizenship on our persons. If that is no longer the case, somebody better say so.
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In early 2024, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott claimed the U.S. Border Patrol was not protecting his state from an “invasion” from would-be immigrants.
Texas is gearing up in a big way for Trump’s mass deportation campaign
EAGLE PASS, Texas — While Donald Trump’s opponents denounce the president-elect’s planned “mass deportations” and border crackdown, this state’s Republican leaders are vying to make Texas the launching pad.
Gov. Greg Abbott and other top officials have spent the past four years positioning themselves as the Biden administration’s greatest antagonists — and heirs to the border enforcement campaign begun by the last Trump administration. Despite having no constitutional authority on immigration enforcement, they have used tools of the state to dramatically escalate anti-immigrant policy and legislation locally while steering a similar narrative nationally.
Archive link: https://archive.ph/GJHTh
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Just imagine how many people are about to die in their own homes.
A bunch of incel losers, armed to the teeth, deciding it’s time to “clean up” their town and go door-to-door hunting human beings because of their skin or last name or accent. If someone comes to my door to demand my papers, I show them my gun. They have one chance to leave and get one warning shot if they don’t.
The next warning shot goes through someone’s chest.
This will happen again and again and again. And the so-called news media will report it as “crime” (subtext, crime is caused by black and brown people), but they won’t ever tell the real story.
So yeah, a lot of innocent people are about to get killed. And the motherfucking Democrats are getting ready by learning to go “tut-tut” really fucking loud.
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I brought up the ID thing because I live within sight of hills in Sonora, Mexico.
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I live just 40 miles from the Canadian border. You and I, and close to 50% of the US population, live within 100 miles of a border, which allows the Border Patrol to abrogate many of our rights with respect to searches and seizures.
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I know some native-born people with Hispanic surnames who will be carrying their card copy of their passport (an extra $30). Passport shows where born and is normally prima facie proof of citizenship.
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You remind me that the first time I heard of a militia – excepting 1776 – was in NJ in the 60s. A colleague of mine had them in his suburban NJ, not in some former Confederate state. At that time, they after those commies they believed were hidden in our govnt’.
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The Trumpistas won’t need no stinkin’ badges when they round up the usual suspects.
I’m not looking fwd to the videos of screaming, hysterical women and children being stuffed roughshod on to busses and trucks. They won’t go like sheep.
They’ll use dogs.
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What I fear is the intersection of the white militias with Black and Latin gangs. I remember a few years ago when a militia from TX said they were going up to Chicago to “clean it up”. We will see.
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Yup, the wierdos will feel emboldened. In WW2 Hungary, the Nazis formed the Cross & Arrow paramilitary. They did the Germans’ dirty work – like tossing live, screaming children into the Danube. They did roundups, too.
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