As More Sen GOPers Come Out Against Outright Dismissal, WH Seems Open To Witnesses

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Just as more Senate Republicans speak out against an outright dismissal of impeachment articles, the White House has conveniently modified its tune on the allowance of additional witnesses in the trial.

This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1284370
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Hannity, Dobbs…and worse

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In a just world, the journalists on any news set would rush J. Hogan Gidley, and pants him.

Live, on national television.

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Done with denial - now into ‘bargaining’ phase are we?

So the next move is to try and dictate their personal selection of ‘witnesses’ - denying the right for Dem’s to call their own. More Kabuki ahead.

Hang in there team “D”.

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"and if you or anyone within the sound of our voices had been falsely accused of a crime, with no proof, and no evidence, for more than three years, you’d want every witness to come forward too and say, ‘this man did nothing wrong,’”

…and that would certainly be true if your name was Hillary and not Donald. But if your client is guilty, I’m sure that as someone who believes as fervently in Patriotism as you do, you would want to see an impartial judiciary in control.

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“The President is not afraid of a fight and if you or anyone within the sound of our voices had been falsely accused of a crime, with no proof, and no evidence, for more than three years, you’d want every witness to come forward too and say, ‘this man did nothing wrong,’” White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley told “Fox and Friends” Tuesday morning. “We are not afraid of a fight. We are prepared and whether this thing goes to a full trial, whether it’s modified or whether it’s just dismissed out of hand for the sham illegitimate scam it has become, we will be ready.”

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Another haircut on a lying machine. Fuck me.

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“We don’t really care who comes forward because the President has done nothing wrong,” he said. “We’re happy for anyone to come forward and testify. There are obviously rules of executive privilege.”

So the members of the WH inner circle who are in the best position to exonerate Trump like Bolton, Pompeo, and Mulvaney will be happy to testify, except that they can’t because Trump won’t allow it. Got it.

Do they really believe that narrative will stick? It’s hilariously naive.

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I’m not so sure he’s not afraid of a fight.

It’s more that his bluff has been called. Insisting that no witnesses be permitted or that the charges should be outright dismissed were not good optics and the polls are reflecting that.

He’s already lost.

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Can any lawyer in this forum point me to where executive privilege is in the Constitution? Has the SCOTUS has ever ruled on it, or is just the DOJ making its own laws.

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Part of me still believes that Mao Tse Mitch is going to pull a fast one and Senate votes Trump out of office. Pence has been MIA. With Trump departure, whole dynamic of 2020 elections change where GOP now stands a chance to hold on to POTUS and Senate.

If Trump gets “not convicted” in Senate, there will be a strong force to remove GOP Senators through election process. Removal of GOP Senators will be viewed as public only recourse to remove DJT. Trump gets re-elected only to be removed within 60 days of taking second term. End result is the same, only Mitch loses SML position.

Why do you think Haley is gunning for VP on 2020 ticket?

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No one wants to see that.
I prefer to remain in eternal ignorance as to whether Gidley is a boxer or brief man.

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“We don’t really care who comes forward because the President has done nothing wrong,” he said. “We’re happy for anyone to come forward and testify. There are obviously rules of executive privilege. The past administrations have exerted, we will most likely do the same thing, but until it goes over to the Senate until we start this trial, all options are on the table.”

Bondy is Lev Parnas lawyer.

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The next time you feel like questioning Nancy Pelosi’s tactical judgment, lie down until the feeling goes away.

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This was in my news feed this morning. There’s a stunning poll in it:

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WH Seems Open To Witnesses

There is no White House. There is only Trump. Gidley’s statement is intended to misinform and should not be reported uncritically.

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IANAL, but there was the unanimous SCOTUS decision that ruled Nixon’s tapes weren’t covered by privilege. That’s a start, but I think it’s irrelevant for this Senate impeachment trial. Roberts won’t touch a hot potato like executive privilege and rule on it himself, and any delay booting it up through the courts to the full SCOTUS would take too long.

Claiming executive privilege is basically a delaying tactic for a trial that can’t be delayed. So it will unfortunately work the way the R’s want it to.

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They think they are so smart.

“A clever countermove”

…say all the rats in the Bunker…while the “Germans” (Trump minions) are literally shedding what is left of their souls in their worship of The Dictator-god

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Donald Trump is scared of everything except a construction sub-contractor.

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