After 8-Hour Standoff With Police, Gunman Surrenders In Philly

A dramatic, seven-and-a-half hour standoff ended Wednesday night when a gunman left a Philadelphia home in which, police say, he had shot at least six officers.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1242798

Taken alive obviously a white manā€¦

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From the neighborhood, we may be hitting the exception that proves the rule ā€¦

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Not white.

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Watching last night, I was very impressed with Philadelphiaā€™s mayor and police commissioner.

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Surrendered, meaning not killed, and had a huge stockpile of weapons? White guy.

I was reading an article in the Philadelphia paper and couldnā€™t figure out why there were several officers on the 2nd floor of the house with the shooter downstairs.

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I am rhankful it ended with the officers and others safely released and the gunman surrendering because there has been a big effort by DA in Philly to be less punitive and more compassionate in sentencing. Killing of a policeman or even aggression in the past has led to police more than once doing full-on street warfare blowing up a house, setting fire to a neighborhood. No one wants to return to those bad days.
One other thing, having worked for decades in West Philadelphia, and later in Germantown which is just above the area where this all happened, many times I would see and hear reports about The Police basically running the drug trade in the neighborhood. They would pick who would be able to safely sell on the corners, and who would get harassed. You would see a car going around in front of the police car blinking its lights to warn the dealers on the corner to get in. I never got the full story but things were pretty seamy, and chances are they still are. But a little slime is a lot better than full on warfare.

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They were serving warrants on other occupants when the shooter started up.

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Agree. Minute I heard the news I assumed shooter was African American, given that area of Philadelphia. We will see.

Very impressive police chief and mayor from the footage I could see. Looks like Philadelphia has come some way from the racism of Frank Rizzo and the (literal) bombing of a home on Osage Avenue about a decade later to oust some black dissidents.

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Now maybe someone could tell me how a good guy with a gun could protect himself against a gunman if it took nine police officers to do so.

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Luck and circumstance?

Apparently, the shooter was streaming messages on Snapchat during the standoff,

BTW, what kind of arsenal does this shooter has stockpiled?

O/T, but thereā€™s a good documentary about that called ā€œLet the Fire Burnā€. I was living in West Philly at the time - far enough away to be safe, but close enough to smell and see the smoke.

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The suspectā€™s name is Maurice Hill. African-American man. He exited the home with a gun in his pants, hands up and the Philly cops didnā€™t shoot him. A great show of restraint on the officers, as six of their colleagues had been hit by gunfire.

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Most likely a row-style home carved up into apartments.

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The suspectā€™s attorney was on local TV today and said, ā€œThe world was watching.ā€ Again, kudos to the Mayor and Police Commissioner for the show of restraint.

The Police Commissioner this morning said the police were interested in preserving all lives involved, including the officers, those residents still in the building AND THE SUSPECT.

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Look again. He isnā€™t white but why should it matter? Lowlifes with records have no race preference.

Glad to hear that

Obviously, nothing is wrong with the not really gun control system here in the U.S. Because the fact that a criminal with a lengthy arrest record can acquire several firearms and scads of ammunition prove that the Seconds Amendmentā€™s two clauses referring no infringement on a ā€œ[w]ell regulated ā€˜Militiaā€™ā€ and the right of the ā€œpeopleā€ to bears arms is alive and well.

Not!!! But we are w-a-a-ay past the reductio ad absurdum stage of pointing out the insanity of the NRA and like-minded ammosexuals and gun nutter.

Sad . . .

As far as the trumpkins are concerned the real tragedy of the episode is that the cops let 3/5ths of a human live. Gun rights arenā€™t for ā€œthem.ā€