Abrams Gives Manchin’s Voting Proposals A Thumbs Up: ‘Absolutely’ Supports Compromise

Last November, we spent about a half hour at the very tail end of election night figuring out how to construct a set of documentation elements that could allow a homeless woman in our ward to register and cast her ballot, which she ultimately did.

I’m proud of that half hour and personally comfortable with that equilibrium.

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Ah, Joe Lieberman’s organization. Great to see his name in the news again. Don’t these guys ever die? Sorry to be harsh, but …

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When a NRA membership card trumps a college ID there is something out of whack.

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“It takes a good guy with a gun to trump a bad guy with a college ID.”

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Untrue.

Manchin is open to making the filibuster “painful” (his word!) and changing the way it’s maintained. He’s said this since last March.

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The GOP is good at converting needed social action to esoteric-sounding talking points, which can be Both-Sided and ultimately dismissed.

That is why the visible presence of POC of all sectors of society visibly angered and disturbed by GOP efforts to disenfranchise them is extremely important.

Broderism turns into Civil Rights Narratives

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So rather than “digging in his heels” after AOCs criticism, Manchin has offered a compromise?

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It’s reassuring to know I wasn’t much off the mark when I speculated that Manchin was a Koch whore.
Please pardon the anachronism.

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Yes he has…but he has yet to say how…which is the catch. This isn’t Manchin having a change of heart. It’s him responding to WV politics. He would leave things as they are if it did not threaten his reelection. Expect from him only what he needs…not what you or I need. He’s had 4 months to say “how” and hasn’t. In a week it won’t matter what he says.

He’s not up until 2024.
If he were truly responding to WVA politics, he’d be fully supportive of SB! and SB4 and the infrastructure package—because around 3/4 of WVA residents are in favor of those things.

Manchin is just rowing upstream against the heavy current because it’s part of who he is.

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Exactly. Manchin is whistling in the wind. He knows his stance is pure bullshit, and that there are not enough honest Republicans to override the filibuster, whatever form it takes. It’s now perfectly OK for Republicans to pre-declare every Democratic proposal as “radical socialism” that will be categorically opposed, no exceptions, no hint of any kind of bipartisanship.

Manchin is the worst kind of hypocrite.

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That’s my point. He’s wrestling with his politics ( save the filibusterer ) and those WV’inains. So far all we have is talk from him and it is very late in the game.

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Gentleman’s Agreement? Is that kind of like following the Norms that have been in existence? Mitch and the pugs don’t do Norms. Would you trust a handshake on it? I want an ironclad, notarized, and signed paper agreement. Old school shit. And check for disappearing ink. The fuckers can’t be trusted.

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It’s not clear how many, if any, of these changes can be put into S1 before the planned vote next week. Multiple Democratic senators told TPM after their Tuesday lunch that they expected the vote to go ahead as planned, even given Manchin’s opposition to the current bill.

My hope is that the bill proceeds to the floor in its unaltered form for discussion where it can then be amended, as necessary, through the democratic process of debate. I am really hoping that Manchin has persuaded 10 Republicans to allow that debate on the floor where S1 can then be allowed to live or die. If Manchin’s amendments are necessary to get most of S1 passed, so be it. Some of the bill becoming law is better than none of the bill becoming law. Small steps. Get what we can in the here and now, and work on the rest in the future. This is how our democracy works.

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He’s also open to imposing the burden of establishing the filibuster on the minority party (minimum vote to establish), and he’s open to lowering the 60 vote requirement to override the filibuster to 55 votes. The filibuster lives. The rules of the filibuster change.

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She knows she can work with it and get the rest later…ultimately pragmatic.

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How about eliminating the “pre-filibuster” the one where a single senator can file a paper that says “we are not even going to debate this bill”
Also: guys, we need to at least point out that what happens is not “filibuster”; look it up. Make them talk.
And… repubs are great at demonizing democratic concepts. We need to demonize the filibuster. Call it what it is

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Finally, a sane democrat. Abrams understands that eliminating the rights partisan gerrymandered districts will screw them over royally since it’s the only way they can win consistently. That alone levels the playing field and makes everything else possible. This is a big f------ deal boys and girls. We win this and the Red wall starts to collapse.

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It feels like Abrams’s imprimatur – or any high-profile progressive Dem – almost guarantees it won’t get 10 GOPers on board, right? There’s just no way. Democrats should all say they hate this. It’s like they’ve never paid attention to the NFL draft.

I read this is Stacey Abrams basically calling Manchin’s bluff. Good for her. If a Manchin-approved bill avoids or survives a filibuster, we all get some good stuff. If not, his filibuster fetish is harder to sustain.

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