ABC News: Jack Smith Gave Mark Meadows Immunity For Testimony - TPM – Talking Points Memo

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Another big shoe in Special Prosecutor Jack Smith’s Jan. 6 case against Donald Trump has finally dropped, per a Tuesday report from ABC News.

This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1472502
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Is target 1 worried? He should be.

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Mark better stay away from windows, orange Julius is going to go ballistic

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I’m sorry. He gets immunity for testifying in front of the grand jury, but nothing he says can be used in a prosecution. A prosecution against him? Or Trump?

What is it I don’t understand?

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This will be an interesting thread to follow this evening.

Back in a bit when the informed content builds up a bit. With a refreshing beverage and a good snack.

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It can’t be used against Mark Meadows. But it can definitely be used against others not named Mark Meadows.

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Per ABC News, the deal’s terms include a provision that federal prosecutors cannot use information Meadows gave to the federal grand jury against him in a prosecution.

Italized bits were in the ABC story but not in the TPM article.

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Thanks.

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“Per ABC News, the deal’s terms include a provision that federal prosecutors cannot use information Meadows gave to the federal grand jury in a prosecution.“

In a prosecution of Meadows, you mean?

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Meadow’s maneuvering to get the GA case in federal court is more understandable now, since the deal here would eliminate the evidence against him. He is still exposed there, expect some kind of a plea deal…it’s possible the federal immunity is extended in exchange for testimony.

This is a big deal, Meadows was in the middle of everything, in all the meetings, he knows what went down and how close Trump was to it. Trump is really exposed by this, we’ll soon see how this impacts the case going forward. The election is also now going to be shaken up, simply because Trump is going to flip out at this exposure, and who knows where that is going to lead.

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Oh yeah. Prosecutors don’t generally grant immunity just because they’re curious.

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I like the part where Meadows contradicts his book.

Similarly – as described by sources to ABC News – despite Meadows telling investigators that Giuliani never produced evidence of significant fraud in the election, his book refers to Giuliani’s efforts to expose “the fraud, and the dirty tricks on election night.”

“The people who rigged this election knew that eventually, these irregularities would come to light … [So] they conducted the operation, then attacked anyone who dared ask questions about what they had done,” his book says.

Meadows went even further while promoting his book on right-wing media in November 2021. When asked by a podcast host if he believes the outcome of the 2020 election was fraudulent, Meadows responded, “I do believe that there are a number of fraudulent states … I’ve seen at least illegal activity in Pennsylvania [and] in Georgia” – referring to two key states that clinched the White House for Biden.

Under the penalty of perjury, Meadows offered a vastly different assessment to Smith’s investigators, telling them he’s never seen any evidence of fraud that would undermine the election’s outcome, according to what sources told ABC News.

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“Mark Meadows was never my lawyer!”

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Thanks. IANAL and I was trying to parse that bit.

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Trump’s walls must look like a Jackson Pollock painting, all in shades of catsup red and splattered burgers.

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Quote of the day…

Trump continued to attack Cohen before entering the courtroom on Tuesday. “He’s a proven liar, as you know, a felon,” the former president told reporters. “We did nothing wrong and that’s the truth.”

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Per ABC News, the deal’s terms include a provision that federal prosecutors cannot use information Meadows gave to the federal grand jury in a prosecution.

Um, did they mean to say that “prosecutors cannot use information Meadows gave to the federal grand jury in a prosecution of Meadows?”

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And ketchup bottles.

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So is this as big of a boom-goes-the-dynamite as I think it may be?

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Thanks.

It would have been helpful for it to have been reported that way.

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