Indications that Thursday’s impeachment inquiry hearing would be electric came early, when former NSC senior director Fiona Hill’s opening statement leaked before the day got started.
Fiona Hill for the win. No wonder Trump hates and fears strong, intelligent women.
One thing has been obvious about these hearings, it’s the women that have the b…ls and the ones p…sying out are all men. Maybe we should get new street terminology about what organ represents courage and which one represents cowardice.
There are a few good men - LTC Vindman also deserves recognition for his service to this country.
But I agree with you that the women testifying have been incredible and have demonstrated that they have more courage, integrity and patriotism than the entire Republican Party.
Most women have been driven from the Republican party, along with people of integrity.
Boom! Mic drop!
“Devin cutting off Castor is the fastest I’ve ever seen him move since his Mom told him to stop reading those Archie comics, get out to the barn and milk me,”
-The Cow
I don’t understand all these breathless “This changes EVERYTHING!” claims coming from some who support impeachment. Substantively, this week’s testimony might be extremely damning, and if this was a trial it would likely be game over for Team Trump. But this is impeachment and different rules apply. You need broad public support to both impeach and remove, and I just don’t see this week’s testimony as making much of a dent in public perception of impeachment.
Those who were for it are just as much for it, and vice-versa. Very little if any public opinion on impeachment appears to have changed. This testimony might be politically helpful as it further solidifies Dems’ justification for impeachment, but it’s not changing public opinion, meaning at this point, pretty much zero chance of removal and not much impact on the 2020 election.
Something else is needed, something spectacular and gripping and easy to follow and understand that WILL change public opinion, even if only by 3-5% (although I think there’s room for even more). Like, a showdown over the production of evidence and compulsion of testimony. So far that hasn’t happened and it doesn’t look like it will. Just because we here are stunned by the testimony doesn’t mean that non-political junkies will be. They won’t.
I think that Dems are once again squandering a golden opportunity to change the political dynamic, because of their obsession with following process and operating entirely within the lines (or their hiding behind such to avoid a bruising fight). It’s like they’re robots who lack some “real world” gene.
If this is all they’ve got, then they’ve got nothing, politically, and may as well not have impeached. Nothing will change because of if if this is where they end things.
Vindman. Hill. We don’t need no stinking immigrants.
And yet a majority of melanin-challenged women voted for Trump in 2016.
Have things changed by now? I hope so.
Hill and H0lmes took the legs out from Sondland and former special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker
Does Mr. Holmes spell his name with a 0?
This makes determining exactly what Timmy Holmes is up to a more entertaining parlour game. He obviously wants to thread the needle of telling the truth while not cutting himself off from wingnut welfare, that was clear ever since we obtained details of his deposition on the weekend. But why did he involve Fiona Hill in an easily refutable lie in order to subtly trash Vindman? Didn’t he know that Hill could refute it publicly?
Which to me proves that the eternal question of which is more controlling in US society, class, race or gender, is the wrong question, because in reality it’s “culture” or “tribe” that’s most controlling. There is much overlap, of course, but the “tribe” of racist and sexist white Xtian conservatives across all class lines, who are driven by a belief that they’re superior to other “tribes”, because of their race, religion, ideology and “culture” (which is sexist, favoring men over women internally), and the need to preserve their “tribe” and “culture” as the dominant one, and the belief that this must be done by all necessary means and that literally any means justifies this end, are what really most controls US society, and always has. It really is about blue vs. red, and everything else secondary to it. Yes, even more than class, race and gender. It’s almost biological, so deeply-rooted is this urge, and why lots of people who KNOW that Trump is a vile scumbag still support him, because he’s THEIR vile scumbag, and their current and perhaps best defense against us elitist atheists, communists, faggots, tree-huggers and Murca-haters (as they see us). The deepest division in the US is about “tribe” and “culture”,
holy carp, let’s hope not.
Though leetspeke is the single best way to quickly create strong passwords. >.>
I think you meant Timmy Morrison
You mention a “showdown over the production of evidence and compulsion of testimony” as something that you believe could change public opinion. That showdown is on course for the Supreme Court as part of the impeachment process. While I’m not convinced you’re right about the impact of testimony so far on that portion of the public that has thus far not paid much attention (low-information citizens, if you will), to my mind, the impact of testimony on the SC is at least as important.
As overwhelming as the testimony has been, it can’t help but have an impact on the Court, and on Roberts in particular, who is famously reputed to be driven by a concern for the Court’s legacy. In light of what we have heard so far, for the SC to rule that critical witnesses can refuse to comply with subpoenas, and that documentary and other evidence can be withheld, would absolutely destroy the Court’s legitimacy, and go a long way towards destroying the Republic it was created to serve. Without the sunlight of these public hearings, the Court would have an easier time glossing over this administration’s obvious criminality. With public hearings, Roberts knows the world is watching and understands full well the testimony being presented.
Democrats have a base as well. And it has been voting like crazy since Trump got elected.
Do you know how pissed and fired up that base is going to be when Trump wins in the Senate?
Concern troll, ignore.