15 AGs Demand WH Retain Docs Despite Trump’s ‘Utter Disregard’ For Record Keeping | Talking Points Memo

There was no record keeping in this misadministration. Anyone who kept records was fired. Let’s not hang our hats on this. Whatever they did was illegal, so let’s just move forward.

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Let’s all hope the permanent staff is keeping copies of all the official records in a safe place. I would bet that is happening in all the government agencies.

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Like the shredding truck that pulled up to the Cheney residence before he left office?

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As long as it doesn’t go to the Pentagon…

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2.6 billion would really help roll out a vaccination campaign to fight the national emergency of a deadly pandemic

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When I was in grad school I worked on a project that researched ways that states were using the tobacco settlement. I came to the conclusion that state attorneys general could be the savior of the country. Not an AG from my state, since we seem to only draw our AG’s from the whackest of the whack. But places that are sane, and have AG’s who seem to think that they work for the people instead of for the whack lobby could make a difference.

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As long as it goes to that, specifically…

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NIMBY’s a bitch

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“Libtard, is you taking notes on a criminal fucking Administration?”

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I am absolutely certain that Joe Biden and his administration will comply with the documentation retention LAWS.

The white folks who do not comply with good, just laws are trash. The only laws that deserve noncompliance are immoral or unethical or unjust or need to be broken for a higher purpose. If I’m trying to save a life and I break the law while speeding to an emergency room, then so be it. I suppose there could be other valid-to-me reasons for breaking a law that I don’t list.

As for shredding documents, the only reason to do that is to cover your ass while obstructing the truth. Ollie North did it and got off on a technicality. We now have a corrupt IMPOTUS who may corruptly pardon all those who shred the truth for him, just as he corruptly pardoned Flynn and Stone.

How do we obtain justice for a corrupt IMPOTUS who corruptly pardons all those around him who could otherwise implicate him in his corruption?

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Yeah, but it’s a moot point by then.

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Shit, I’ll take odds the Orange Asshole has shredders going 24/7!

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Should take a page from the Trump playbook and refuse any further payments.

My rant on the word “comply” and not having consequences was more about police interactions with African Americans, as opposed to white folks, especially in this maladministration, not following norms, rules, and laws.

I’m just so tired of people who comment on a posting (not on here at TPM) about how “if they’d only complied, or followed the officer’s orders, then they wouldn’t be dead.”

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Confiscate all of them!

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Asking Trump to retain documents is like asking & expecting him to tell the truth…about anything.

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You guys do realize that it’s really damn hard to permanently destroy digital records, right?
Realize that when you erase a file, you don’t actually erase the data.
You initially remove the ability to retrieve the file from the operating system.
Forensics can still retrieve that data.

When a file is stored on a secure server, it is stored at a minimum in a RAID array, which makes it really hard to easily destroy the data. Also, the RAID array is backed up. There are significant redundancies. To destroy the data would require that you effectively erase data (and repeatedly overwrite the area the data resided upon with random shit) from the array and the backups, and do so in a way to remove all traces of the existence of those files, and all records of those records. The political appointees in the White House don’t have anyone who is adept enough to do this in a manner that forensics couldn’t find evidence of a crime. Also, destroying such secure data is in itself an extremely serious crime…and it could be considered espionage.

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That argument becomes even more lame when you have police officer’s shouting conflicting orders in a tense, chaotic situation.

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Then we need to hold the new Administration’s feet to the fire. We can’t forget what Trump and the GOP tried to do. Ever. The only way to protect this country is to shame them (and prosecute them) mercilessly.

It’s for the greater good, something we are supposed to believe in.

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Pardons issued for a corrupt purpose are illegal, and can be undone. I think Trump is so blatantly desperate -and almost impossibly stupid- that this would not be a far-fetched legal avenue to pursue.

The alternative is to do nothing, and I don’t think that’s going to sit well with the majority.

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