Discussion for article #240900
More nothing.
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Countdown for all of the e-mails being conveniently âleakedâ to a member of the press in 5âŚ4âŚ3âŚ2âŚ1âŚ
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This actually might be good news for the Clinton campaign. One of the persistent things I hear from people that think sheâs dishonest is that she must have deleted a bunch of incriminating stuff. If the FBI truly recovered the deleted emails, which I have complete confidentce that they did, they can be reviewed and confirmed to contain nothing nefarious or classified. It isnât a total cure, but it will help with people that arenât already irredeamibly against her.
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Itâs the return of âOleâ Drippy.â
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A good thing? Seriously? Either the FBI isnât believed, or the e-mails are leaked and the not-at-all-fair-and-balanced ânewsâ networks do a carnival fun house connect the dots to implicate her in serious wrongdoing.
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Those would be the irredeamible people. There are a ton of independent voters who wonder what the heck was in all those deleted emails. Getting an answer of ânothingâ from the FBI will help with those. Sheâs never going to convert the Republicans who already hate her reflexively and forever.
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I prefer my news to come from ânonymousâ sources.
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The âmoneyâ email they found: âI killed Vince after I hooked up with another lady, and I used millions from my Whitewater deal to pay those LIbyan guys to kill everybody at the embassy and burn it down.â
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I am breathlessly awaiting the release of the ones that say: âHoney, would you pick up a quart of skim on the way home?â Love, Bill.
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Damnit, you know that email was classified. Now weâre all going to jail.
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An anonymous source familiar with the investigation? Theyâre ALWAYS right!
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There are other Hillary stories TPM. Hillary climbing in the latest CNN poll. Hillary caused biotech stocks to plunge earlier this week with a simple tweet about proposing legislation to prevent drug price gouging. Furthermore, I have no real issue with TPM using Medaite or Rawstory stories. My beef was that you wait so long to use them, long after everyone has moved on other stories. The latest example was the ex hedge fund guy raising a drug price over 5,000% overnight. The NYT first reported it last Sunday: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.html?_r=0
Rawstory ran it Monday morning. They have had at least 6 different articles on it since. You decide to print the story after itâs no longer a story. Mediaite and Rawstory borrow from each other all the time, but they do it within an hour or so, not days later. I realze there is limited news out there, Iâd rather see you borrow some interesting Rawstory articles in a timely fashion than see all Trump stories.
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Clinton herself has not been the target of any investigation.
Make this the first sentence in every damn story about this, rather than belatedly tacking it on at the end after a lot of speculative reporting.
Itâs astonishing.
The reporting. And not in a good way.
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Youâre talking as if the Clinton Rules wonât apply. In the absence of incriminating emails, weâll see each and every even arguable judgment call as to whether an email was personal and thus subject to deletion held up as evidence of clearcut criminal wrongdoing, we will see single sentences clipped out of context and leaked, weâll see entirely made up emails floated around on the Internet as having been leaked, thereâll be yet another epic campaign of sheet-sniffing, nefarious narratives concocted out of any reference to the Clinton Foundation and, above all, a claim that instantly becomes truth that the absence of email implicating her in in the BENGHAAAAZIIIII! scandal conspiracy theories bandied about as proof of how deep the conspiracy goes.
The mere fact that weâre even talking about this is indicative of the problem. Why is this even happening? Why because itâs irrefutably presumed she did something wrong and absence of evidence to support that irrefutable presumption is itself evidence of the thing presumed.
And âso-called âhome-brewâ server?â Really? Some asshat coined that phrase to make it sound like it was put together out of ten year old E-bay parts by some 17 year old kid and loaded up with a very special Linux variant suspiciously distributed and supported for free by a mysterious Russian company and a bunch of cracked warez downloaded from a torrent site.
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Because the Clintons, and for all the unfairness of lumping her actions with those of her husband, and it is unfair, have long been known as incredibly sharp operators that play it incredibly close to the margins. Sheâs not trusted and whenever something that looks questionable comes up, she isnât getting the benefit of the doubt. Thatâs not a media thing, although they certainly help keep the waters muddy, but an actual thing. Poll after poll show that people across the spectrum feel that she isnât truthful. She needs to be more transparent and open about things than the other candidates because, media fed or not, sheâs not viewed by the electorate as trustworthy. Having a bunch of emails get deleted when this email thing hit was amazingly poor optics and it just looks like sheâs trying to hide something material, when sheâs certainly not. Having the FBI say that there wasnât anything material in the deleted emails will help bring some people back that are concerened about her honesty, which is a good thing for her campaign.
Exactly right.
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It canât have taken this long. You can get data recovery software free all over the internet and it can recover a 1 tb drive in about 4 hours. This has to a release of old information ( they wanted to review the info before they announced they had it ) or those are some seriously lazy assholes.
Trouble is, the electorate is influenced by the press and MSM. So in effect, the MSM defends themselves by saying: âwe must be doing a good job of putting out the âfactsâ about how untrustworthy Hillary is, because a large portion of the public believes the inuendoes and misinformation we publish.â Chicken:egg. Vicious cycle, etc.
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This is definitely true, but also irrelevant to her getting elected. If sheâs viewed as untrustworthy by the electorate, no matter what the reason is, itâs bad for her. Claiming that the playing field is unfair to her, which definitely has some truth to it, doesnât materially help her.