Discussion: 'High Time': Hatch Introduces Medical Marijuana Bill, Unleashes Pot Puns

All the idle vapourings of a mind diseased.

“Racist” is not allowed.

(Interestingly, New Zealand’s history with the Maori, and its modern social integration, is just about the best and most encouraging to be found anywhere in the white colonial world.)

I wonder when “quasi-parsonical” cropped up…

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I can assure you that if it’s illegal to smoke recreationally, it will still be sufficient probable cause to search or at least expand the scope of a stop if an officer says they smelled marijuana. For medical research purposes would be at labs, corporations, universities, etc. Even if it was available for use for personal medicinal use, it would still likely be enough for an officer to expand his search to ask for their medical use permit or prescription. Probable cause is a ridiculously low bar in our legal system.

Even if it couldn’t get through Congress, it still doesn’t change the fact that it is the most preposterous example of hypocrisy ever.

Unless Democrats get a big win in 2018 and 2020, not much will change. This is going to need to change at the state level I think.

Hatch once said (or is said to have said) that Ted Kennedy was an expert in offshore drilling.

You might note I do not go to bars anymore. And that was before all the changes to the law. Had my share of moments many moons ago.

One thing that aggravates me is the idea of quiet lounge has become a thing of the past. Everything seems driven to the party hearty crowd. Pet peeve on my part. Even the typical restaurant bar has gotten rowdy. But then I am older now and it is no longer a big deal.

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It must be his new aide, Snoop Dog.

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You know the single biggest reason the Republicans have always been so anti-weed right?

They know, they fear, they are one Dorito chip away from being enlightened.

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I am placing odds on him having a relative/loved one that uses/needs it.

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Good points. As it is, there are lots of prescription medications which preclude driving, and rightly so. I don’t know if there is much research on how marijuana affects driving, because that would be hard to test. Anecdotally most people don’t seem to think it’s as dangerous as tired driving, distracted driving, drunk driving, if dangerous at all…but research probably also shows that being stoned lowers executive function and reflex time, which responsible operation certainly call on.

We could spend all day making jokes about roadside tests might be administered, like asking a driver to correctly identify a Captain Beefheart riff (to see if he can confidently lie), or saying" poop" really slowly to crack his composure. In reality, there is probably no possibility a court-admissible test of general wherewithal that every sober driver could pass and that every stoned driver would fail. Without a reliable ad hoc exam to establish a driver’s capacity, and acknowledging that in general marijuana does negatively affect some of the capacities called on for driving, all stoned driving – at any level – will probably remain illegal for good.

That said, since it will be difficult to prove either way, cops will likely take it easy on people most of the time if they are caught – like they used to with drunk driving before the portable breathalyzer test.

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I don’t know if he’s friends with McCain, but McCain may wind up with an Rx for it.

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Changing at the state level won’t address that it’s a federal crime, and the DOJ is responsible for enforcement and prosecution.

? Did I miss some comment he made regarding Cruz’s porn preferences?

Most marijuana charges are state not federal. States adopt the federal schedule so that’s an issue. But the states really are where most drug charges are prosecuted.

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“Cons”? No such critter.

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Yeah, but that’s mostly because there’s no point tying up DOJ resources if the states can get it. Remove that, with an AG like Sessions…

… I wouldn’t trust it. Better to have a federal law on the books.

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Certainly that’s preferable. And I don’t trust Sessions either, but I will be surprised if federal agents spend much time on marijuana regardless of Sessions.

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Perhaps he doesn’t.

That said, medical research is the only thing which can demonstrate “acceptable medical use”.
Which demonstration would legally require that it be removed from Schedule 1 - if we’re lucky that could be during public hearings in which the racist and crony-capitalist origins of marijuana laws are publicly aired. (And shove Jeff Sessions opinions on cannabis right up his keister - publicly.)

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The actual reason was persecution and sociopolitical repression of racial and political “undesirables”.

Edit - for ONDC, that is, which whitewashed (see what I did there?) the egregious genesis of the original prohibition.

I’m from the generation that started using glass pipes and it’s part of our culture around here in the great Pacific Northwest. But Orrin is just a crazy kid who says he can’t get high unless he smokes a full blunt. Kids these days.

Can’t wait to dab with him and discuss fiscal policy and reduce the corporate tax rate.

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Also a neurotoxin, which weed is also not.

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I was visiting Colorado a few weeks ago. They bring in about $450 million in revenue from legal marijuana. Not billions but definitely not chump change.
The revenue goes to education, school construction and drug rehabilitation.
It would be amusing if some went to Beauregard Sessions favorite and not too effective program DARE.

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