Discussion: Dem Rep. Responds To Kelly's Claims About 2015 Event: 'That's A Lie'

Yes, it works for any resonant container.

There is a fake Kelly accout out there.

Eta: @socialista said it better w/ link

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True, my point mostly being ‘Barrel’ as a ‘barrel of beer’ not a “gun barrel”. In Danish they are quite different words.

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I don’t think that disproves that it’s also a saying among gun enthusiasts. Why is that such a problem?

Early draft of my New York Review of Books critique of @thunderclapnewman’s latest short story:

“Newman’s terse prose cuts away the distractions of unnecessary digressions and gets straight to the narrative in the most economical fashion. He relies on strong verbs that convey all we need to know about his characters, without leaning on the crutch, as lesser writers do, of florid modifiers. This is story worth reading not once or even twice, but many times – until it becomes a sort of mantra.”

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No problem at all…

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Wow. That’s not only the opposite of how Kelly described it, it also places Kelly directly in the role of rather hideously attacking and pulling down into the mud the great respect she gives to the FBI, the fallen FBI agents, and the bipartisan teamwork in Congress that passed the naming bill in time for the ribbon-cutting ceremony – specifically to honor the FBI and the FBI’s request.

In his desperate need to denigrate Wilson, Kelly instead denigrates the very notion of respect for the nation’s top law-enforcement agency. He is his own accuser.

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Talk you Congress Women for your Service.

TRUMP, answer these questions?
Why did they died?

Why was the country of CHAD put on your list TERRORIST? Chad’s troops had ALWAYS watched out for our troops in that area and then for SOME reason YOU put them on YOUR list of country’s with terrorists and two days later this attacked happened after Chad pulled their troops from that area after YOU put them on YOUR list. See their are this was another LIE by a incompetent Republican President and more of our troops died because of your LIE

See how the COWARD avoided being confronted with these questions. He’s been hiding out finding reasons to avoid US. tHE NEXT QUESTION IS WHO WILL HE BLAME NEXT, who will take the FALL for him…AGAIN. Any TAKERS?

Trump LIED and people have died.

TICK, TICK…STUPID, the clock has run down on using the Congress woman, using the widow’s grief. Using John Kelly.

WHY??? TRUMP???

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Here you go.

Nope.

I pointed out that since the expression was used by a writer who had no experience of guns that the expression cannot be gun-related, which is true.
Nowhere in the etymology of the phrase are guns mentioned.

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Of course it can. By your reasoning if Mary’s mother likes chocolate, it’s not possible that Mary also likes chocolate because Mary’s mother liked chocolate first.

What you can say (although I’ve no idea why this is so important to you) is that the concept of an empty container resonating more loudly predates its use in the gun community. And I already pointed out that this is completely compatible because the concept is a general one. Why is this such a BFD for you anyhow?

Because the etymology of the phrase does not mention guns in any way—so it may be used incorrectly by gun enthusiasts, but the phrase has no relationship to guns whatsoever.

That is factual.

Well bad news, dude…

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We are not talking about the etymology. I said I’d read that it’s a saying used among gun enthusiasts and ALSO very specifically said that doesn’t contradict anything that you had said about earlier and/or different uses.

Why are you being such an absolute jerk about that?

And which do you think is more likely: That Kelly picked it up from his avid reading of Plato or from being around gun enthusiasts?

I missed this…I’m sorry to hear it. McMaster wrote an excellent book on the Vietnam war that I have used in class many times, so I assumed he would be a moderating influence in this WH. I guess we can hang our remaining hopes on Mattis?

Probably joined because he’s a small dick. Meaning petty because size doesnt matter. Someone should tell Trump.

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Too bad about the disappointment. People change. With Kelly I can guess he’s redirecting his anger over his son’s death. He can’t be angry with the military because he is the military.

That might explain it, but doesn’t excuse it. He exudes anger and hate.

As for Mattis, I assume you’re joking. I’m now convinced they are all evil. As I said elsewhere, they are not enabling. Enabling is passive. I’ve now seen two of “his generals” very aggressively defend, deflect, and lie for this man and aggressively attack his detractors. This is conspiracy, collusion, promotion: way beyond enabling.

“SEMPER FI” to WHAT, exactly, “general” John Kelly? Your racist attacks on Rep Wilson are DEMONSTRABLY FALSE. You have NO honor. You are a DISGRACE to the uniform. You owe Rep Wilson a PUBLIC APOLOGY for your LIES.

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The stain on John Kelly after this rabid lying rant is not the garden variety Trump White House stain. This is one long dribbling runny sh*t stain.

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The cartoon is right on the money, but I wish it did full justice to the millions of dollars spent on those bounteous silicone repositories.

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