WI law permits up to $200k in punitive damages in civil suits. That’s likely why they’re pursueing this in state court instead of federal. Also, I doubt these clowns prepared for discovery (oh, I always delete email older than 90 days–been doing that for years).
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As well, I’m not sure they have standing in this case. Typically (for those fortunate enough not to be lawyers), plaintiffs have to show that they were injured somehow by the actions of the defendant(s). I’m not sure that exists here.
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So lawyers cannot practice politics?
That is while it can be a breach of the ethical code or rules, depending on the state, to bring a frivolous case, remember your bar exam, which if you went to school in and practice only in Wisconsin you did not have to take, cases with $1.00 in damages are brought all the time on bar exams.
There are lots of reasons to pay a lawyer, you should know that.
I think the claimed reputational injury probably gets them standing, but it’s definitely dicey.
Go ask Rudy. I’m done with this nonsense.
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“Go ask Rudy. I’m done with this nonsense.”
While it may be a cheap shot, your being done is best for everyone.
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If you can get into federal court, it would still have to apply Wisconsin law on the punitive damages claim. More likely reason why they’re in state court is because they don’t have any federal causes of action, so no federal question jurisdiction, and everyone’s a Wisconsinite, so no diversity of citizenship jurisdiction.
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One more detail, that’s $200k per defendant, so $2mil in total. Though I wonder if, since there are 10 potential plaintiffs (2 have put their names on the suit so far), that might grow to $4 or $20 mil in penalties (unlikely to happen).
For those who though the Justice Department was foot-dragging…
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You’re double counting. Only one cosplay elector could have maliciously acted against each plaintiff’s right (which is not her right at all) to have their real electoral ballot counted in D.C. Gotta match each real elector against the corresponding fake elector. So $200k max from each of two defendants.
And as noted elsewhere, it’s not going to work at all because of the way the statute is written.
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Wonder how many of those 1000 transcripts are just “I do not recall” over and over.
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They were willing to file completely bogus and false claims in state and Federal courts and have relentless press conferences about their fake claims and 24 hours news cycles with Fox News, OAN and others.
They’ll also be losing their law licenses.
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Is Wacko Wendy squirting steroids, too?
Why do these wacko Republicans keep posting pictures of Trump as a bodybuilder???
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As to a) Probably is true since the real electors are now believed to be cheats by the Trump 30%.
It seems there is a willful attempt to ignore the rather obvious thing I’m talking about. I’ll try again…
We have REAL lawyers, we have REAL legal scholars and we have REAL issues of an attempted coup, fake slates of electors, pressure campaigns on local politicians, intimidation campaigns against election workers. Loudly and publicly pursuing these REAL issues would result in REAL claims in state and Federal courts and not a single one would put any license in jeopardy.
Why aren’t the Dems fielding this group?
ETA: Trump’s team realized that this was a political fight and not a legal one. That’s why they were willing to put their licenses on the line. Dems still haven’t realized that we are in a political fight for the future of our country. They think the DOJ is going to save the day but they’re wrong. Even if the DOJ investigation ends up with indictments or even prison sentences, the political win still goes to Trump because he was able to convince a huge portion of the country that democracy no longer works. If the Dems don’t internalize that truth real quick, things are going to get worse.
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Followed shortly by “shall we refresh your memory with copies of these text messages?”
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Counterpoint: Nobody knows who any of them are. Well, they know who Gov. Evers is, but not that he was an elector.
Interesting. There are a few annotations to Wis. Ch. 784, notably the Salbashian case, to which the complaint cites, from which I gather that in an action quo warranto, the relators have to plead some type of injury, but it can be minimal. But the plaintiffs allege only, in para. 264, that they have been injured and continue to be injured, with no detail, and a fine payable to the state at the court’s discretion isn’t the sort of thing one thinks of as an “injury.”
Stafford, Rosenbaum has been a fixture in Madison (and more recently Milwaukee) for years with a diverse practice and talented people; we’re not talking Lebanese carryout here. So I presume they researched this, discussed lit risk with the clients and are now prepared to argue that the very minimal injury the plaintiffs would contend they sustained will be enough to sustain this. Question for the court on motion for summary judgment, then.
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But we have an emasculated, castrated, spayed, and genital free DNC. Regardless of what sex parts they sported, they replaced it with a spinal slinky.
The total lack of fight, courage and ethics from the national democrats is infuriating and unacceptable. But i still get emails from them, daily, that only they can beat back trumpism.
bull shit.