What Biden Can Do With Vaccine Rollout Mess Trump’s Dropping Into His Lap

The first doses of the COVID-19 vaccine are being administered, applauded on their way out of the warehouse and received with a game thumbs up by exhausted health care workers. 


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1350628

Just document and repeat the Warped Speed promises EVERYWHERE, so they can be easily and definitively refuted when the GOP inevitably attempts to shift the blame.

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I would assume he’s got a team of real experts working on every possible scenario as we speak and already making arrangements

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I saw the clown HHS Sec Azar on the Today show last week. He said everyone one can get the vaccine at the end of February. I knew that was total BS the second he said it. This is a setup and trying to set fake expectations…

Less than a month the circus will be leaving town… Hip Hip Hooray!!!

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Trump knows he’s leaving. Yay!!

But what I know is that, come 20 January (4 wks), there will be a Biden Presidency. Americans have never been short of talent.

Biden will use it. Not being a narcissist will work greatly in his favor and animate those who will be under his leadership.

@evan…I am basically repeating you, but I have always been aware of the tasks which can be accomplished with concerted team effort. Trumpism has resulted in effort directed at the enrichment and advantage of one person and his crew of criminals. What Biden is tasked with is not that.

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What’s the incompetence to malice ratio?
Either would explain the fuckup.

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The first thing Biden needs to do is tell the public that just as everything else, Trump has lied to you and he needs to say it over and over.

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What can Biden do?

How about a bigly bonfire on The Mall? Burn the mess to ashes.

It’s not so much a ratio as a product.
3: 5 vs 3 million:5 million
same ratio, different magnitude

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OT, good news never stops when yer on a roll…

And trump just got news… no more loans from his favorite bank in the world…


According to axios.com everybody has kevlar on or should cuz trump is lashing out at everybody. It’s highest of high stress in the West Wing right now Meanwhile Jared is planting trees with Bibi in Jerusalem…
And my schadenfreude pot needs tending or it’ll boil over.
If we survive this month it will be some sort of miracle.
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Job Number One right now is setting expectations. I think they’re doing that. Trump can spin tales but everyone knows he’s lying yet again, and that there isn’t that much going on.

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I can hear DB calling in their loans the moment Biden takes the oath. :joy:

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Back in July, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY)…

Come on, TPM. You can do better.

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Yes, I was just about to comment on this, but you kindly provided the link. :wink: Deutsche Bank can loan the bank’s money, and it can also offer services to provide loans from private lenders. The individuals responsible for negotiating the private loans for Trumplethinskin and Javanka through Deutsche Bank have just resigned their positions concurrent with ongoing investigations into bank and tax fraud. Isn’t that just remarkably interesting?

Vrablic and Scalzi have worked closely together for years since joining Deutsche Bank a decade ago. Vrablic was a trusted contact to the Trump Organization and Kushner and assumed the bank’s lending relationship with Trump in the private side of the bank after the commercial lending division stopped doing business with Trump.

Deutsche Bank has loaned the Trump Organization more than $300 million.

In a statement Vrablic said, “I’ve chosen to resign my position with the bank effective December 31 and am looking forward to my retirement.”

Vrablic has direct knowledge of Trump’s relationship with the bank as she handled the account in recent years. A lawyer for Vrablic declined to comment on the investigations. “Ms. Vrablic is committed to cooperating with the authorities if asked,” her lawyer said.

Here’s hoping that neither Vrablic or Scalzi become intimately familiar with the inside of a body bag any time soon. That would make a very lousy retirement package.

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The Biden people have the deck stacked against them, due to Trump and the Republicans…and, it’s almost going to be guaranteed that the virus will continue to spread in the conservative areas of America that refuse to believe Biden won, the virus is real, or the vaccine is safe. They will keep dying, and ignoring safety rules, and blaming Democrats for it…it makes no sense, but at this point they have been propagandized for so long that they need deprogramming, for years, for the truth to get through.

It’s still going to be a long road of death ahead, and it didn’t have to be this way…when Republicans decided to politicize the safety concerns about the virus this path was set, and it’s only a question of how many will die now. Biden just cannot stop that, especially after Trump and Republicans have salted the Earth with the lie about the “fraudulent election” and undercut as much of his presidential power as they can. Biden will have a great team, and he’s probably the most experienced president ever elected and still pretty sharp (despite the memes), but it’s still going to suck.

And, after all of this, I truly am starting to think that America is done as a world leader…the moral failure of the Republican party has dragged off that pedestal. Until we get rid of the right wing nonsense that remains a power player in the nation, we won’t be able to lead the world again…I wonder if that will change in my lifetime.

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It’s really interesting that they are bailing…is it in the hopes that they can make a deal and are trying to separate from DB to do so? Or have they been paid off and are going to make a run for it? We’ll have to see…it does make it clear that investigations are ramping up, and it’s a high stakes game as getting Trump for his financial crimes is going to open up an entire world of bad behavior, one that the wealthy do not want exposed.

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I suspect they will be shopping around for lawyers they can afford…

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@drriddle @darrtown
If rumors and inference are correct, then these two bankers are responsible for funneling loan money from Russians. Lots of money. I suspect that has a lot to do with Satan’s Avatar’s deferential behavior towards Russia and Putin. Time will tell…unless enough witnesses are silenced.

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trump could’ve led on the vaccine roll out but no his needs outweigh the country’s needs yet again and it keeps getting worse.

I hope the two bankers have very very clean underwear…
Ya cannot … just cannot make shit like this up.

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Covid related from WaPo

Man who died following medical emergency on United flight had coronavirus, coroner says

Three people responded on the flight and gave him CPR. He’d been experiencing symptoms of Covid but didn’t include that before he got on the flight.
So, if that still makes you want to get on an airplane, have at it.

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