Vulnerable House GOPers Wobble Trying To Dismiss Far-Right Talk Of Civil War At Texas Border

[darrtown]

@fgs

Kiss my affordable house in Phoenix goodbye, which has more than doubled in value since I moved to Wisconsin in 2012. If I wanted to retire in AZ after I get sick of snow and cold, I’d be halfway to Tombstone before I could find a place I could afford on a fixed income.

Bought our house in 1980. Patd the mortgage off in 1997 after paying a lotta extra each month. Not the biggest or fanciest place in Tucson but it’s ours. Value today is at least 4x the purchase price.

[charlie6]

The sane republicans who work within the system realize the majority rule road only leads to changing the conservative agenda to fit the needs of the public to make it popular enough to get elected, the insane republicans want to cheat to impose minority rule on the majority because their sick twisted conservative minority rule agenda means more than democracy or majority rule. The later run the republican party at the moment and they are the folks who align themselves and their agenda with Russia and Trump.

[slbinva]

@stradivarius50t3

f your “state” can’t muster enough residents to make an actual Congressional Delegation (i.e., at least two Representatives), then you can’t be a state any more. You become a local-governing territory of the United States. You lose your Senators and your Congress critter doesn’t get a vote on legislation any more.

Sorry, I don’t think that would fly. Article 5 of the Constitution, which deals with Amendments, provides that “no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.” And the provision in Article 4, Section 3 that “no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress” could quite possibly be argued to mean that you can’t, say, ram North and South Dakota back together into a single territory without the consent of the legislatures of both states, which you’re not terribly likely to get.

Never mind that one reason the Dakotas were made into two states to begin with was to give Republicans an extra two votes in the US Senate from what they would have had if the territory were to become a single state.

[slbinva]

Not to mention that the GOP is blaming Mayorkas (and Biden) because he is not able to keep every single “illegal” immigrant from crossing the border, something that nobody in US history has ever been able to do. And that we are not prosecuting 100% of all cases against them, which would be completely unaffordable.

[stradivarius50t3]

I did call for a Constitutional amendment, you know.

I also said it would never pass.

[godwit]

@stradivarius50t3

. Your suggestion would give a House apportionment of 574, about 150 more than the current number. There is enough office space in DC for 574 representatives.

I prefer my proposal because it knocks off the nonsense that Wyoming, either of the Dakotas, etc. merit anything beyond territorial status. Not that either proposal has the slightest hope of becoming law.

I think expanding the house is much more doable than disestablishing states. Plus expanding the house would go a long way towards fixing the electoral college

[stradivarius50t3]

@godwit

I think expanding the house is much more doable than disestablishing states. Plus expanding the house would go a long way towards fixing the electoral college

Oh, it’s much more do-able. As I said, my proposal would never pass.

Nonetheless, I’ve been to Wyoming. It’s a beautiful place. (I’ve been to both Dakotas, too. Also beautiful places. Not as beautiful as Wyoming, but not many places are.)

The MSA I’m currently living in (Cincinnati) has nearly the population of all three combined. My MSA gets how many US Senators? (None specific to us, but we have a share of two, and one of the two is J.D. Fuckwit Vance.) ND, SD, and WY have how many US Senators? Yeah, six. They’re electing fuckwits, too, but Ohio elected J.D. Fuckwit Vance, so I’d best be cautious about tossing rocks.

ND, SD, and WY have 3 Congressional seats among them. The Cincinnati MSA has two Congressional seats.

In case you can’t tell, I’m a little chuffed about that malapportionment. People are what should count for statehood, not the number of Russian thistles (a/k/a tumbleweeds) growing in the political boundaries.

[fgs]

I’d still be there with ya except the cost of riding it out was working all hours in a 24-7 rat race.