Ukrainian Court Grants Ex-Prosecutor Shokin’s Bid To Force A Biden Probe | Talking Points Memo

Agree. And the same goes for Biden.

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Biden is being Hillaried!

Let us not forget the truth:

it was Shokin’s failure to investigate Burisma and other apparent corruption that led to Joe Biden, with the backing of the broader international community, to push for his firing.

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Sometimes I wonder if smoke filled rooms wouldn’t give us better candidates. This weird caucus over there, closed primary here, open primary there, jungle primary in CA, do it on Saturday in February here, Tuesday in in March for these, meaningless pie fight debates sucks.

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You are so bad and, obviously, you have a library of GIFs at your disposal.

Impressive.

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Nah, just lucky with the google machine

And Bloomberg. And Trump. Warren is a tougher call. She’s got a couple of years on me, but you’d never know it - she seems to have the mental acuity and physical stamina of a much younger person.

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Watch how quickly they lose interest in Bidens when he’s not the nominee.

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Except that Bernie is applying for the most important job in the country, so we’re entitled to a bit more than your personal assessment of a bit of anecdotal evidence from the Internet.

I founded an Internet consulting company way back when it was first getting started, then took an investment after a couple of years. I had to fully disclose our books, and then - yes, submit to a complete physical, with a nurse coming to the company to administer an ECG, take some blood samples and more. Worked out fine, got the investment and so on, but no way were the investors just going to rely on “anecdotal evidence” when the stakes were high, and boy are they high this time around.

And this was all after I was only a few years out of grad school. Bernie is 78 years old and has recently had a heart attack, so yeah - he’s going to have to share a bit more data if he wants people to relax and trust him on this one…

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Something in Fat Donnie’s internal polling still shows Joe as a threat. This will backfire bigly.

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I don’t think most Bernie supporters see Biden as a viable threat at this stage. He’ll probably win SC. But then the electoral landscape looks pretty grim for Joe.

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That’s great news, chelsea. Hope you zoom back to 100%.

Now, speaking of Bernie, he really looks amazing for his age and condition and appears to be more spry, have more coloring and, well, we know there’s nothing wrong with his voice cuz he can shout with the best of them. He’s more animated and projects more strength than Joe or Mike BB, IMO.

There’s a risk voting for octogenarians–voters usually want to count on 8 years worth of presidency. Joe, Bernie, and Mike have age in their “con” column–when’s the last time America had a choice like that? Never.

These guys need to pass the torch down to the next generation. Why are they–at that age–still clamoring to be at the top of the heap?

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Same with Joe.

In both cases we are at least looking at the 2024 nominee when Joe/Bernie make their VP choice.

As such a unity ticket with both of them is a non starter.

Any way around it I hope the eventual nominee is smart enough to know it will have to be a Center/Left or Left/Center ticket… we lose otherwise.

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Speak for yourself.

He’s the only Threat. I think his weaknesses are starting to show, but we’d be stupid to discount him.

Also the media will make a huge show of his likely victory in SC. No matter the margin.

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That’s one of the many dangers with Bernie as a candidate. I don’t think Bernie’s base of support would stand for a VP pick who wasn’t 100% in sync with his values and policies. He can’t afford to go even a little towards the center with a VP pick for “unity” or his base will scream.

Biden has more room to select someone a little more to his left as VP, because if he’s the nominee then the Center-Left already has their candidate and they’ll be breathing a sigh of relief. A slightly more left-ish VP could help get more Bernie voters onboard.

To be clear, I’m not writing him off, I’m just not seeing how the numbers add up. The threat will be from the super delegates if Bernie doesn’t have a clear majority IMHO.

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it was Shokin’s failure to investigate Burisma and other apparent corruption that led to Joe Biden, with the backing of the broader international community, to push for his firing.

Shokin is not to be trusted.

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FWIW, I’m a Bernie supporter and would certainly give him some leeway on his VP choice to help him get the more moderate types on board. I don’t think the media portrayal of his base as this rigid-thinking cult has any merit.

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Based on what? The fact that 90% on Bernie supporters still voted for Hillary after the Fuck you to the 35% of a VP nominee Kaine?

I think Bernie has some running room to nod to the center while not being an odd pairing. For example The establishment loves Stacy Abrams… she’s pretty progressive.

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They have to know denying the candidate with the plurality of delegates the nomination is a sure way to lose.

That said, that plurality candidate would have to be humble enough to know that his/her VP pick would need to acknowledge the clout of the leanings of the runners up. That’s only fair.

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