Trump-Boosted Malaria Drug Showed No Benefit In Study At Veterans Hospitals

Nice work, you stupid fucking idiot (to Trump). Looking forward to someone asking him about this at the presser later.

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Where do the pod-people and “lizard men” come in?

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Nice work you big dumb dummy (my initial post was not allowed because I used more flowery language). I can’t wait for the presser today. Maybe a few reporters will string together a few questions about this.

ETA: I guess they both posted. Refer to the post with the swears

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“local businessman said that the entire virus was a plot to harm President Donald Trump’s chances …”

What is the difference between somehow trying to make COVID look like a planted device to entrap and undermine Chump, vs when Chump gets caught with a hooker and his sycophants claim she was a plant, sent by his enemies to entrap and record him in a crime?

It just doesn’t matter how incriminating, how guilty, how red-handed he is…these people will humiliate and incriminate themselves in order to write Get Out Of Jail Free cards for the scummiest human ever to hold office.

ETA: Oh, and how does killing 20,000 people in Italy, or France, or UK help to undermine Chump’s chances, we wonders?

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I am scrambling in search of articles positing that lynching caused only slightly more deaths of black folk during Jim Crow segregation than state executions by hanging. Or that the ovens of Auschwitz caused only slightly more deaths** among Jews and others than did housefires during the years of Holocaust.
The Current Occupant is peddling a potion that can kill the citizens of his country, and we are farting around trying to determine what degrees of death might be acceptable before the medical research community says “Do not play around with this using this shit on corvid-19 patients for ANY reason, no matter WHO tells you to, unless we say otherwise.”

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I can. My patience is exceeded only by my ennui.

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Kushner Enterprises will make that move after dipping heavily, once again, into the Payroll Protection Program, once again. Lather, rinse, repeat…

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The comments always make my day.

The trick is not to watch - ride the descriptions from the people who are livingblogging it. Of course the way things are going we are running out of livebloggers cause all you people are losing stamina. hahahahahahahahaha

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Hey he said if your Dr. said to take it!

So let me get this straight-

Hydroxychloroquine, the drug Donald Trump is making money on and has pushed on TV as a cure for Covid-19; it turns out it kills more Americans than the standard virus care; and they tested it on Veterans?

I would love to say this surprises me.

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You own a patient emu? Oh wait, I didn’t have my glasses on.
Sorry.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl:

'Honest mistake - knowing @ralph_vonholst, it is not out of the question to think he said “emu.”

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At least lupus patients will be able to get their meds again.

I read a couple of opinions by doctors versed in the pharmacological effects of HCQ who theorized that it might lead to worse outcomes in some cases. Gold star to those folks.

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Never Trumpers. every last one of them.

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Worse to me than the headline, is what you quoted, “slightly MORE” = 28% / 11% = 2.54 TIMES!?!?

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone.

While I completely understand this isn’t a full-blown peer-reviewed, double-blind, yadda yadda, that don’t make no sense! :thinking::mask::upside_down_face:

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As Josh updated with Doctor JB’s comments, this study has a lot of holes in it.
Just a few examples:

Severe patients were more likely to receive HC.
There are no reported doses for HC. (The Brazil high dose study was VERY high, resulting in cardiac deaths)
Not blinded, randomized, etc.

So many holes in this study, it is almost useless.

And to think, I thought I’d never have any use for BarBush’s “beautiful mind” quote…

But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many…? …So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?

Sweden abandoning its testing of hydroxychloroquine a couple weeks ago on the negative side-effects with no discernible benefits. That assessment applies to many things the Trump administration does.

Those are his most available group to experiment on.

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A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals.

And a couple other European studies were cancelled because the drug itself was actually killing too many patients.

No wonder the Death Cult Dear Leader touts it.