Originally published at: The Medical Science Is Always ‘Uncertain’ When It Pushes Against Supreme Court’s Bias
If you came into Tuesday’s oral argument over Colorado’s conversion therapy ban blind, you’d assume that the practice, meant to “turn” LBGTQ+ people “straight,” has supporters and detractors in equal measure, is a hotly debated medical practice. “Let me describe medical uncertainty as competing medical views,” Justice Amy Coney Barrett said. “Let’s say that you…
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That’s great, you corrupt assholes. Go ahead and allow it to be permitted. I mean, not like there hasn’t been lots of people who’ve ended up having their lives destroyed, including goddamn children, to the point of self-destruction or anything. But hey, ‘sometimes the experts are wrong’.
Yeah, have fun with that Alito, Thomas, and the others. All that resulting pain and suffering will be on your heads. Not that you care, since only people with a soul feel that way.
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States can ban gender reassignment treatments for teens. Why can’t states ban conversion therapy? Yes, I know the cake is already baked and the SC will produce a decision that sounds sensical at the most superficial level, but what REALLY is the difference?
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“…courts may not ‘sit as a super-legislature to weigh the wisdom of legislation.’”
Except when the legislation is something we don’t like, like that which expands civil rights protections, shields voting rights, enables campaign finance restrictions, allows women to control their own bodies, and stuff like that. Then we’re okay with weighing and discarding the wisdom.
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I after years of careful study, observation and as a gay man of this nation, have developed a workable theory that Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh (and possibly Barrett & Roberts too) are paid agents of a cabal of fascist Christian Nationalist terrorist organizations.
Perhaps we should ban them from issuing opinions on all rulings dealing with societal, financial and most definitely religious matters until the science is fully baked, just to be safe.
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Madam Justice, I reject your hypothetical that this matter comes down to equally plausible competing medical views, we are not talking about a split of opinions among qualified professionals about the best treatment. Rather on one side we have decades of peer-reviewed research that demonstrates the benefits of gender affirming care and the harms of conversion therapy and opposing that we have a collection of strawmen, paper tigers, and pseudo-science put forward during the monthly meeting of the Ignorant Tight-Ass Club.
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I think that the time has come for SCOTUS to discard their traditional robes and update them with something that better reflects their values:
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“Was there a time when many medical professionals thought that certain people should not be permitted to procreate because they had low IQs?” Justice Samuel Alito mused, invoking the era of eugenics. “Was there a time when there were many medical professionals who thought that every child born with Down Syndrome should be put immediately in an institution?”
Let us muse further:
“Was there a time when the early settlers of this land thought it right and proper to be ruled by an all-powerful king?”
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I suspect that Amy Coney Barrett is the kind of fool who assesses that, for any experiment for which there are exactly two possible outcomes, the probability of each of the two possible outcomes is 50%.
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Ban harm to the fetus. Absolutely.
Ban harm to the child. Absolutely not.
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The Alito clique are paid, but by taxpayers. The bribes and FedSoc honoraria they pocket for polishing rich folks’ apples are great perks, sure, but as zealots I’m not sure that they need to be salaried agents? Like sadistic executioners, they do it because they love the ego trip of being able to dominate others.
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Don’t you dare “groom” my child (tell him there are gay and trans people in the world who live normal happy lives)! But if a parent wants some fanatic therapist to “talk” a child out of being gay or trans, it’s just free speech at work. This issue is simple. Parents (particularly religious oriented ones) refuse to accept that a child is gay or trans without coercion or grooming. I have some news for them…don’t hold your fucking breath. Orientations are as close to innate as eye color.
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Amy Coney Barrett: Her bias shows through in her ignorance (or unwillingness to affirm) of the preponderance of evidence in medical science, plus she’s a shitty mathematician. I’d suggest she stay in her lane, i.e. the law, but even her expertise there is stilted (I am being too kind, I know, I know…).
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They’re “just asking questions,” although not necessarily the kinds of questions you’d hope the Supreme Court would ask. Of course, their questions justify changing the law. Questions from the left, not so much.
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This is a terrible case that equates conversion therapy, a term coined to describe efforts to \ alter a client’s innate sexual orientation and exploratory therapy for individuals suffering from gender dysphoria. They are not the same thing.
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This is what bothers me the most about this Supreme Court’s conservative axis - they don’t listen; they vote their prejudices and ignorance. Whether it’s Alito saying “Was there a time when many medical professionals thought that certain people should not be permitted to procreate because they had low IQs?” “Was there a time when there were many medical professionals who thought that every child born with Down Syndrome should be put immediately in an institution?”, invoking the era of eugenics, both bringing up medically irrelevant issues and invoking the Trumpian “Many people have told me” and “Many people say…”, where “many” means few to none, or Alito again, ior purposes of deciding whether a national right to abortion exists, invoking, not law, but the irrelevant personal opinion of a low-level official of a foreign country under a government that no longer exists there, and from which we won our independence more than two hundred years earlier, the handwaving these bigots use to support their diktats convince nobody who has even a modicum of knowledge about the topic under litigation. But that appears to be the point - they don’t want to convince, they want to demonstrate their power to rule as they wish, regardless of the facts.
Every one of the Dirty Six perjured themselves during their Senate confirmation hearings. Every one of them violates their oath of office whenever they ignore the facts and partisanly rule illegally or, increasingly, unconstitutionally. None deserves to sit on any Bench, much less the highest in the land.
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Per Alito, that medical consensus has, at any point in history, been “politicized” or “taken over by ideology” is a good enough reason to believe that conversion therapy is actually safe and effective.
Given the fact that Supreme Court consensus has become “politicized” is reason enough to believe that the Court is dangerous and should be ignored.
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The First Amendment has been deliberately misinterpreted from the beginning. Tax-free status for religious organizations is state approval for ALL religions. It’s a seeming fairness that dates from a time when the overwhelming majority of churches were Protestant. They still are.
We have 6 religious zealots on the Supreme Court, and the most powerful voting bloc in the country is a conglomerate of churches that not only provided religious social exemption for slavery in the time of slavery, but a large portion of which supported a Civil War and apartheid not dead even a hundred years.
Something is far wrong, and if we survive this faith-pimp of a president, it has to be redressed. There is no facility for the excepted status of any doctrine that indoctrinates children. It is as antagonistic to freedom as any cult.
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Opus Dei fanatics for sure. So was Scalia.
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I only have one question. Did the Fed Soc legal right once upon a time sincerely believe their arguments against judicial activism and legislating from the bench, and they have been radicalized over time thanks to the Fox mind virus, or was today’s results first Christian Calvinball always the planned endgame from the very beginning?
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