The Legend of Corn Pop

Biden tells the story of his confrontation with a gang leader armed with a switchblade back in 1962.

“You might cut me, Corn Pop, but I’m going to wrap this chain around your head before you do.”

It’s really something else.

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Oh dear…that terrible awful old white man. Did I fail to say OLD




and then there’s this…

Is there any candidate who has not mis-represented something about their past, present or future? What about you or me?

Hey! How about we just get all our information here?

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The story has all the elements of his “pinned a medal on a guy who didn’t it want it” story — there are probably nuggets of truth about it, but what he describes never really happened.

There is also a Washington Post version (based mostly on Biden’s autobiography) that is even more dubious.

What gets me about the video version is the part about the chain. Now, Biden claims that it was chain that was used to keep the deep end separate from the rest of the pool. If that is the case, it was very lightweight chain plastic chain that either floated, or was light enough to stay afloat with small buoys attached.

And no one would tell a high school kid to confront three “bad dude” gang members brandishing straight razors with a piece of plastic chain. So THAT did not happen.

But the whole story is consistent with Biden’s self-mythologizing “white savior” narrative he presents when racial issues come up.

This part particularly struck me…

Most of the people I got to know there had literally never talked to a white person,” he wrote in his book. Because of that, as he said Monday, “They’d ask me questions — because I really was the only white guy they really knew — about things that just startled me.”

we’re talking 1962. Sure, I can see most black people not having significant social interactions with white people. But even in the worst of Jim Crow south, black people talked to white people — they had to, because white people were their bosses.

then there is this, again from the Post…

He recalled, for example, a fellow lifeguard asking if Biden had a five-gallon can for gasoline that he could borrow for a trip to see his grandmother in North Carolina. Biden didn’t, and he asked why someone would need such a thing. After all, many gas stations line I-95.

“‘We can’t stop at most gas stations,’” the black lifeguard responded. “‘They won’t let us stop at most gas stations.’”

“I learned a lot,” Biden said.

“Every day, it seemed to be, black people got subtle and not-so-subtle reminders that they didn’t quite belong in America,” he wrote in his book, where he described that summer. “It was a dozen small cuts a day.” Even so, “The stories my friends at the pool told were always tinged more with confusion and pain than outright anger.”

so here we have Biden pretending that as a high school senior, he was unaware that racial discrimination existed in the south.

And we have Biden talking about “his friends” as passively (albeit hurt) accepting the victimization. Indeed, they were “confused” about the situation – as if black people in the early sixties didn’t understand their own condition.

This is “modern” Joe Biden speaking. And its not the voice of someone who has actually thought about racial issues, or dealt with the racism that was simply a given throughout his childhood and teenage years.

Ultimately, the most telling part is that while Joe Biden talks about his “friends” at the pool, there is not a single hint that any of those “friends” were part of the ceremony when the pool was renamed for Biden.


But that’s not what he said. And it’s perfectly reasonable that a high school student would not understand that, in certain southern states, a significant number of gas stations would decline to serve black motorists.

This stuff gets tedious in a hurry.


Biden treats it as a revelation – not as an example of his own white privilege, where this signifies his becoming aware of what racism means, but as new information. (“I learned a lot”)



I thought that was satire…you mean he really was talking about a gang member named CORN POP??? For real??? (there just isnt an emoji corn pop disbelief)



Was he sellin this


(I hear its the good shit)

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How did this post originally without a topic…I didnt think you could do that??/
(its the power of Corn Pop)


alrighty…but beware the power of “Coco Puff”!


I really thought it was a joke…like something out of Wonkette…from whom I am expecting something spectacular on this subject now that I see its a real thing he talked about…
Corn Pop…does he lead a gang in Iowa?


He’s Orville Redenbacher’s toady.

Get on his bad side and no more buttery picture show popcorn for you! only the salty unpopped kernels…:cold_sweat:

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Well, it appears the story is likely true.


Ok then…wow.


it was the 50s. (chronologically the 60s, but the sixties didn’t start until the Beatles…) You had the Sharks and Jets. Pony Boy and Soda Pop. So “Corn Pop”…why not?

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Joe Biden attended high school at Archmere Academy in Claymont, Delaware. Archmere Academy is a very exclusive and very expensive Catholic school.

In 1961, the year Biden graduated, it was an all-boys boarding school. One can presume, knowing Delaware’s history of race relations, that its students were all or mostly white.


Delaware had Jim Crow laws and legal racial discrimination while Biden was growing up. Biden would not have had to look south to see institutional racial discrimination and legal segregation in public places. It was a fact of life in Delaware.

Delaware had listings in the Green Book, too.

It would be surprising if Biden had not been aware of Jim Crow laws, considering the racial segregation that existed in Delaware at the time, but then again, boarding school life at Archmere Academy was likely very sheltering. I doubt that he had any black classmates in high school.

Delaware has historically had one of the highest number of students attending private schools, and this is a legacy of court-ordered desegregation. Even after Brown v. Board of Education in 1954, it wasn’t until 1967 that Delware closed its last segregated school.


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Pretty boring story, actually. The young folks in the background near fell asleep. The name “Corn Pop” is the best part of the story. Aside from that, not sure what the point is.

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Jim Crow laws enforced racial segregation. What we’re speaking about here is voluntary discrimination, not something that is required or enforced by law. And no, the full scope and extent of that discrimination, and for that matter a full understanding of when de facto slavery actually ended in a lot of the country, passed and continues to pass below the notice of a great many people.