The 'Christian Nation-ist' Set To Take Control Of The Federal Government

Mr. Vought apparently imagines that 18th century Philadelphia was most akin to 15th century Seville.

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“we are a Christian Nation as founded and that should be shared by everyone”

Let the neo-Crusades begin.

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In the time of the founding fathers, many Christians fled to America to escape religious persecution back home from…… Wait for it…… other Christians!

What the actual fuck is this guy even talking about!?!?!? The separation of church and state was literally designed to protect Christianity, not exclude it. Because the next question is… Who’s Christianity?

At a bare minimum it’s the question between Protestant and Catholic. But as a pluralistic society, there’s a whole lot of other folks here who have religious beliefs too. This whole idea is complete crap. :roll_eyes:

:rage::rage::rage: SMDH….

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Great first comment, btw! You’re gonna fit in here really nicely! :joy:

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“We have lost the ability in our public square to hear from Judeo-Christian values… It is so foreign we don’t even know how to talk about it or how to reason from that perspective.”
That’s why, if you don’t believe exactly what we believe in exactly the same way, we will kill you.
He has also stated that he intends to intentionally inflict serious trauma on citizens by killing them and those around them at potential protests. The guy is a psychopath or at the very least a pathological sadist. You may want a so-called “Christian nation” but the salivating over seriously harming and killing people is…insane.

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Let’s not forget those savage natives had their own beliefs.
I mean dude, come on man, there are a lot of Christian denominations. And once you start to favor one over the others then we’re into a Holy War. Been there, done that, and it’s documented.

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What is freedom of religion?
:black_small_square: You can practice any religion, or not practice a religion.

May be Russ Vought could not pass a basic citizenship test given to those that are naturalized.

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Welcome to the monkey house.

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I attend my Presbyterian church every week, and I do NOT recognize
the “Christianity” these people say they represent. I don’t know a single passage from Scripture that supports their point of view. What I have read includes: “Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angel unawares.” (Paul’s letter to the Hebrews). Or more pointedly, from Matthew 25:37 which is too long to quote here, but ends with Jesus saying when you (feed the hungry, clothe the naked, entertain the stranger) you do it to me. Jesus teaches kindness, genoursity, and humility. This is fundamental Christianity, and these cretins choose to ignore it.

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To all those “Fuck your feelings” types, I say “Fuck your religion.”

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I want to cram my atheism down his throat.

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He probably also believes that America was founded as a slave-holding nation but we’ve somehow lost our way.

Seriously, I will do my damndest to fuck over any attempts by these mouth-breathers to make this a christian nation.

A little OT, but biblical scholar Dan McClellan rips into transphobic apologist Mike Johnson.

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No it wasn’t.

You know what America was founded as? A constitutional republic. The constitution for our republic, by the way, doesn’t in any possibly construable way say that the Executive can refuse to spend funds as Congress has appropriated them. In fact, that notion violates one of the constitution’s foundational principles: the separation of powers.

Vought is so full of shit his fingernails are brown. He’s a fascist stealing “christianity” as a fake smokescreen for fascism. Only in the rotten tumor on the body of the republic that is the contemporary GOP could his millimeter-deep “christian nationalism” get him anywhere.

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Translation, I suspect: “Lots of people aren’t even listening to me. Therefore we must make my words law, and overthrow constitutional government to do it.” No consideration of the possibility: “Perhaps no one is listening to me because what I’m saying is reactionary gibberish and obvious lies, like ‘American was founded as a christian nation.’”

Part of the trouble here is that so many influential people, especially but not solely in the media, look at the mutants who want to consume our innards flourishing among us and say, “Well, they do have some good ideas,” or, “It’s true that their plan to consume our innards is unorthodox.”

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It is a de facto line item veto which the Supreme Court ruled as unconstitutional in 1998 when President Clinton tried to cancel one provision in the Balanced Budget Act of 1997. But this is not 1998 and I could see this Court saying Trump was properly exercising his power of checks and balances against a spendthrift Congress.

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Their viewpoint has about as much to do with the actual constitution as saying we’re a German nation. Or, I dunno, a monarchy.

Shouldn’t they just give up the pretense at some point and say, “We don’t care what the founders intended with their so-called constitution, we want this to be a Christian nation, and we’re willing to destroy anything or anyone in order to impose our bullshit on you.”

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But the thing is, they don’t really want to be a Christian nation, it actually has nothing to do with religion at all. Nothing they are trying to accomplish (stopping immigration, quelling dissent, slashing the government, etc) has anything to do with Christianity in any way. It’s just a pretense to seize power.

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The Founders weren’t living in a bubble – they were completely aware of the European religious wars of the 17th Century, and did not want that here.

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Yeah, is there ANYTHING in “Project 2025” about feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, and welcoming the stranger?

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The ideological and cultural attempt to conflate religion and national citizenship is not about religion or nationhood; it is about power. It is bad for religion because religion is being used as cover for antithetical ideas and behaviors. It is bad for national citizenship as it privileges one (dare I say “White”?) cohort over all other citizens. It is a con.

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