Oh, I get that it’s a catch-all, and I think it’s properly interpreted as including the Presidency. What I’m saying is that the omission of the Presidency from the text is rather glaring. It’s reasonable to ask why that is, and if that means that the drafters of the 14th Amendment didn’t intend for the Amendment to apply to the Presidency.
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To my understanding and recollection, however, those ARE determined state-by-state.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but the link I provided states, “…These regulations, known as ballot access laws, determine whether a candidate or party will appear on an election ballot. These laws are set at the state level.” (emphasis added)
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My prediction is criminal conviction before the election, and total destruction of the Republican party.
(Ok, maybe I’m dreaming on that last part, but hey, a fella can dream right?)
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That’s wishcasting.
And frankly dreaming of the total destruction of the opposition party is not particularly democratic, so rather like becoming the very thing one hates.
Hoping for an epic drubbing at the ballot box, well that’s reasonable.
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So we lost democracy when the Whigs went extinct in the mid 19th century?
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It is a Federal election, I can see problems with individual states deciding who is running on a National Election. Break the mold here and see what the GOP does from here on out.
Beat his ass in the election, the Dems should be amped up now.
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Ask yourself: is it plausible that the authors of the 14th amendment intended that the the president should be free to lead insurrections against the United States while remaining eligible for future office under the United States?
I submit that it’s completely implausible.
Many senators, representatives, and other office-holders from the South did, in fact, engage in insurrection. The authors clearly were focused on preventing members of that large group from returning to office. On the other hand, no president ever had engaged in insurrection. The very notion is deeply counterintuitive. Why would the chief executive of the government rebel against the government? Well, along came Fat Donnie and answered that question. The notion that the counterintuitive quality of Trump’s insurrection should make him immune to the 14th amendment’s ban on insurrectionists is, well, not just counterintuitive, but nonsensical.
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In the same room as your unicorn. The party of the donor class is not going anywhere. What we don’t need is any more unicorn thinking.
Cowards
They knew how the Senate voted in trump’s 2nd impeachment (57 -43to convict). They knew Congress saud he engaged in insurrection but they wondered what insurrection was and any other minutae they could conjure.
Cowards
In other news that will stick in trump’s craw…
Biden ‘willfully retained and disclosed classified materials’ but will not be charged, special counsel says
… … … …
No charges.
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Ponderous Straw Man
The internal disintegration and evolutionary replacement is hardly the same as “total destruction”
There actually isn’t such a thing. All elections are state run affairs.
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Ponderous Semantic Dodge
The internal disintegration and evolutionary replacement is precisely the same as “total destruction”
Even though I think this effort is going to be smacked down by the SC with extreme prejudice, it was still worth the effort because it will force the SC to define where the threshold is. I mean, the 14th amendment says what it says and it counts just as much as the other amendments. It can’t be ignored. But it’s funny that none of this was necessary before Trump came along.
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That is all the country has left to save itself from dictatorship by an incompetent narcissist.
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Donor class is not voting in elections (and mediocre performane of pure donor backed candidates is evidence this is pretty sad excuse)
The median voters for Republicans exist, they vote, and it’s not theDonor class that created them.
Rather than taking Activist posturing, good electoral politics in a democratic context - taking the lesson of convincing from Union organizers - is paring away at the margins for that body rather than making excuses of Fox News! Donors! etc
I hope President Biden decides to award Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi a Purple Heart for valor. They were nearly hanged on January 6 by domestic terrorists in the line of duty. They saved the country from a s**t-tainted rapist and tyrant. We also need to build a National Coup Museum in the Mall.
Anyone know if there are any awards the military or the country gives out to recognize cowards, enemy collaborators, and deserters? I think a couple of Senators like Lindsey Graham and Josh Hawley are truly worthy of consideration.
Well if you believe that, … what can I say. Some people have a poor grasp of language and logic.
Pence and Pelosi were injured on J6…?
(“Purple Heart for valor” is not a thing)
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Indeed. But keep at it, you can improve with time and effort.
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Well perhaps, looks like the SCOUT, may have different opinion.