Second Circuit Delays Enforcement Of Criminal Subpoena For Trump Financial Records | Talking Points Memo

President Trump won a brief reprieve from New York law enforcement on Tuesday, as Manhattan’s Second Circuit Court of Appeals further delayed a subpoena for his tax returns from going into effect.


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President Trump won a brief reprieve

For a brief reprieve, this one has already proven quite long.

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Stayed until the outcome of the Sept 25th appeals court hearing is known.

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A four year term run entirely on legal fumes. This is way fucking wrong.

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Using the protections of the legal system to ultimately install a Dictatorship.

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Our court system (expedited cases)

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OK, I rarely complain about little details but… the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit is not “Manhattan’s Second Circuit Court of Appeals.” That makes it sound like it’s a state court, not the federal appellate court for the Districts of Connecticut and Vermont, and the Eastern, Western, Northern, and Southern Districts of New York.

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I’m starting to believe that our system not only encourages kakistocracy, it actually guarantees it given sufficient time.

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I guess I’m just repeating Menken, but with different words.

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The fix is in and my outrage knows no bounds.

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“Time keeps on slippin’ into the future”

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It’s as if there’s something in those returns they don’t want shown.

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And not eco friendly.

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But isn’t this is a stay of a previous ruling even though Vance wasn’t pursuing executing the subpoena while awaiting Scumbag’s appeal and doesn’t really do much except move the process along?

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But look at the face! How can one resist that face?

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I remember Watergate vividly and the thought that there was a criminal as President made every decision expedited as if, gasp, it was actually a matter of national importance. Even more astounding, the chief criminal abided by all of the rulings handed down including the one that led to his downfall - turning over the infamous tapes.

Now we just fuck around for years, literally years, trying to get someone to testify or to get a peek at his bank records. It is this bullshit that is completely eroding what little faith I had in the legal system. It is this legal obstruction that makes me cry for the obviously completely ineffectual system(s) we have in this country to deal with a would be dictator. This is the exact same shit that we scoff at other countries for. We are no longer a nation of laws, we are a nation of arcane legalistic bullshit.

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IANAL, but in asking whether the request might be too broad, wasn’t this judge basically agreeing that the request is itself legitimate and that the only issue was the extent of it?

How is it possible that this can just be appealed ad infinitum? Unfuckingbelievable.

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I’ve been involved in enough civil cases, as a party and friend of a party, to know that the side that is most aggressive and persistent tends to win, and that justice doesn’t just self-impose. Of course, it helps to have top-shelf lawyers, but none of the parties in the cases I’ve been involved with had such resources. But, if Vance persists, and it’s a given that he’s got top lawyers, he should win, the only question being when, and to what extent.

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Welcome to our lovely legal system. Happens all the time every day in every court.

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