Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) on Sunday remained hopeful that a deal can be reached with centrist Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) on the reconciliation package, following the Build Back Better plan’s passage in the House.
remain hopeful
Well, that’s just sad.
No later than Festivus.
For the restofus.
It appears as though they already have the votes in the Senate from the way everyone on the inside is talking. I can only imagine that, if either Manchin or Sinema shot this bill down now, they’d just make themselves total pariahs within their own Party. I don’t see an upside for them if they tried to play any games at this point so I’m optimistic that they won’t.
For the troops, Mom, Dad, apple pie, the ball drop, the Rose Parade, the Rose Bowl, and before the big raccoon sees his shadow.
Fingers crossed. Rabbit’s foot, don’t let me down.
I’m so tired of the narrative of these people being centrist or moderates. They are neither. They are corporate lackeys. Don’t give damn for the people or their constituents, just their own power and pocketbooks. This goes for the so called house moderates as well, bought and paid for by big Pharma. Let’s call them what they are “self centered jerks”
I’m coming around to the idea that what Schumer should “offer” Joe Manchin is that he will NOT send the raging MAGA hordes after Manchin’s luxury houseboat, in which he dwells. Thuggish? Definitely. But I don’t have the patience of Charles Schumer, and think he probably needs to have less of it himself.
And what’s the deal with Gillibrand? Has she run out of Democratic targets to MeToo?
This certainly sounds promising. Much better than the usual, not by the hair of my Manchinny, chin, chin, that I’ve gotten uber-tired of.
Indeed.
Same tactics over and over
The first Democrat to signal his opposition to the Obama administration’s $410 billion 2009 spending bill was Sen. Robert Menendez (NJ), who suggested that his vote might be in jeopardy if provisions loosening the Cuban trade embargo were kept in the measure.
But Menendez’s complaints look like a drop in the bucket compared with the brewing rebellion among centrist Democrats who aren’t sure they can support Obama’s push to let the Bush tax cuts expire for the wealthiest Americans. Politico reports that 14 Dem senators (and Joe Lieberman, naturally) are meeting behind closed doors to discuss their discomfort with Obama’s $3.55 trillion 2010 budget.
Before the budget even comes to a vote, however, the 2009 spending bill must be taken care of — and one of those centrist Dems, Evan Bayh (IN), is urging Obama to veto the $410 billion measure in a Wall Street Journal op-ed today. From Bayh’s piece (emphasis mine):
The omnibus debate is not merely a battle over last year’s unfinished business, but the first indication of how we will shape our fiscal future. Spending should be held in check before taxes are raised, even on the wealthy . Most people are willing to do their duty by paying taxes, but they want to know that their money is going toward important priorities and won’t be wasted.
You can remain hopeful, Chuck, but in the mean time, why not consider this approach.
I’m 100% with you. They are not “centrists”.
Is that James Armess??
I agree with your first sentence completely… the definition of centrist, moderate, conservative has been so abused. The reactionaries are called conservative. The moderates are called liberal. The liberals and progressives are called communist etc etc. when we can’t have a common language we’ll never have agreed upon legislation.
Indeed. “The Thing from Another World” -1951.
Not so much for the stale “eat shit” reply but for the brazen silliness they’d even consider doing this.
I bet this was all TFG’s idea.
Of course they would.
This young degenerate’s life will likely not go well, guns or not.
Also, the guy is a felon and Mrs V.H. says that she had read that the injuries were suffered by some folks being shoved around in the tumult and not bullet wounds, but still …
The reason for this is because the center of political gravity has shifted so far to the right in this country that Reagan wouldn’t even make it through a GQP primary. What is problematic is we keep applying the same old political definitions to individuals that, as you say, no longer meet that definition.