Scenes form the Wagner Mutiny That Shook Russia - TPM – Talking Points Memo

We should not believe that the Wagner Group is doing or working for any good in the world. They are certainly not heroes.

The BBC has some good background:

The Wagner Group (officially called PMC Wagner) was first identified in 2014, when it was backing pro-Russian separatist forces in eastern Ukraine.

At that time it was a secretive organisation, operating mostly in Africa and the Middle East, and is thought to have had only about 5,000 fighters - mostly veterans of Russia’s elite regiments and special forces.

Since then, it has grown considerably.

“Wagner almost certainly now commands 50,000 fighters in Ukraine and has become a key component of the Ukraine campaign,” the UK Ministry of Defence said in January.

It said the organisation started recruiting in large numbers in 2022 because Russia had trouble finding people for the regular army.

About 80% of Wagner’s troops in Ukraine have been drawn from prisons, the US National Security Council said at the start of this year.

Although mercenary forces are illegal in Russia, the Wagner Group registered as a company in 2022 and opened a new headquarters in St Petersburg.

“It is openly recruiting in Russian cities, on billboards, and is being named in Russian media as a patriotic organisation,” says Dr Samuel Ramani, of the Royal United Services Institute think tank.

Since 2015, Wagner Group mercenaries have been in Syria, fighting alongside pro-government forces and guarding oilfields.

There are also Wagner Group mercenaries in Libya, supporting the forces loyal to General Khalifa Haftar.

The Central African Republic (CAR) has invited the Wagner Group to guard diamond mines, and it is thought to be guarding gold mines in Sudan.

Wagner members have been operating in Syria.

The government of Mali, in West Africa, is using the Wagner Group against Islamic militant groups.

Prigozhin is thought to make money from these Wagner Group operations. The US Treasury says he uses its presence to enrich mining companies, which he owns, and it has placed them under sanctions.

There are a lot of mercenaries making their fortunes off of wars, weapons, natural resources, gold, diamonds and oppression of people. And I wonder how much our own American-brewed Erik Prince and his Blackwater and current brand of murderers is guilty of. Maybe it’s time to place them under sanctions.

Deep Bow to you today, @irasdad
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Here in the good old US of A they are called Trumpers.

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The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

The eternal Thompson gunner still wandering through the night…

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And those same men are now part of the Russian army. Lovely people eh? It was the same when I witnessed them invading Czechoslovakia in 1968. Nasty nasty people. I hate them.

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How’d they get the tank through the drive thru?

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Drive thru? What’s a drive thru, asks the Wagner mercenary.

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What drive thru has ever resisted a determined tank?

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I generally have no use for Chris Christie, but his current mission is okay by me.

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Yes, I believe there is a whole story that has yet to be told truthfully – history.

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I suspect we won’t be seeing much of Mr Prigozhen in Belarus or anywhere else. He has pained a rather large target on his back. I expect window cleaning will be in his future. He would be smart to never go higher than the 2nd floor of any building.

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Remember, Putin supposedly tried to poison his self-described good friend and biggest ally, Lukashenko, less than a month ago. What if the Belarus leader is joining forces with Prigozhen, to take over and finish the Ukraine War? And defeat Putin that way? I don’t believe anything that is currently coming out of all the talking heads right now… Including ours!

We Western forces need to give all-in support of Zelensky right now, while we have a good chance of chaos in the Russian ranks…

ETA: Don’t think for a minute that Lukashenko is a good guy, either. All three of the top all criminals and despots, AFAI am concerned. All three of the top dogs in this fight are criminals and psychopaths.

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Lookit me everyone - I got my picture taken with a rapist! send me some :heart: :heart:


my thoughts exactly, @irasdad

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Here’s their home grown Kyle Napisanodomski

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except I can see this happening in Podunkville with platoons of defected National Guardsman and oathkeepers on their way to oust Biden

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Honest question: Anyone know what the stuffed animal (I think a doggie, maybe a bear?) on Prigozhin’s uniform represents?

Here’s a good background article on the guy who is an equal to Putin in barbarism and psychopathy:

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It’s a very touching story.

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Recruiting posters!

Trailer parks have been put on notice.

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A nation that has two armies is a disaster.

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Yeah, me too. As a point of interest, Trump is a “wide-boy” in more ways than one. In UK slang a “wide-boy” is a man who earns a lot of money by doing things that are dishonest or illegal

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