Trump and his administration can only be characterized as fetid.
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Nice insight. Greed. One of the Seven Deadly Sins.
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Josh’s take sums it up perfectly. This is what I was getting at.
"I continue to believe that the best way to see this Ukraine collusion/extortion isn’t as a new effort, a reckless effort to get yet another country to intervene in US elections. It’s really much more a continuation of the Russia story, an effort to discredit the Mueller probe, spring Manafort and turn fire on Democrats and the “Deep State”.
For political and presentational reasons Democrats want to severe this from the Russia story with all its complexity, uncertainty and boiled frogs. As a public communications and clarity matter, that makes sense. But to really understand how we got here this is more an Empire Strikes Back sequel type thing, umbilically connected to the original story and one that makes no sense without it."
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It’s one thing to be on the wrong side of history. Quite another to be on the wrong side period.
Sarah owes the nation a profound apology.
This is part of a timeline from Emptywheel
30-APR-2018 — U.S. State Department confirmed that Washington delivered thirty-five Javelin anti-tank launchers to Ukraine.
02-MAY-2018 — Ukraine had ceased cooperation with the Special Counsel investigation, according to NYT; “‘In every possible way, we will avoid irritating the top American officials,’ one Ukrainian lawmaker says. ‘We shouldn’t spoil relations with the administration.’” Ukraine had also halted its money laundering investigation into former President Viktor Yanukovych, who may have used stolen Ukrainian taxpayer funds to pay convicted former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort to aid him in winning in Ukraine.
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Bingo!
This was not the first time that the Trump Administration had strong-armed Ukraine, merely the most recent WE KNOW ABOUT.
I want to see what is in the redacted paragraphs in the Whistleblower complaint. I’ll bet money it’s Trump saying something about how he will let Putin know what Ukraine’s answer is to Trump’s demand.
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Somehow I don’t think he’ll remain in this country if pardoned. Though given he has been arraigned in NY state perhaps he would not walk free.
Has trump been to the Ukraine?
Yes he has - or so he has said.
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This is important – and is just one more reason not to limit the impeachment investigation – an idea that has been floated in the media (and perhaps as just a trial balloon).
Lots of people want to pretend the Mueller report doesn’t exist — but this ties directly into it.
The more pertinent question is can the shitgibbon locate Ukraine on a map?
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Between actual criminality and commonsense fitness there is a lot on the table aside from what Hair Duce did before election day.
Certainly. It’a province of russia, isn’t it?
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I’ve been to Ukraine. It was cold.
I think we are missing the biggest story and treason by Trump in regard to the Ukraine, Trump’s attempts to give control of the Ukraine back to Russia.
In his press conference with the Ukrainian president yesterday, which I was able to watch live because I was home sick with the flu, Trump made the startling comment that Trump wants the president of the Ukraine to “get together with Vladimir Putin and work things out”.
This can only mean that Trump wants the Ukraine to be back under Russian domination. That really is all “get together with Vladimir Putin and work things out” can possibly mean, be a nation under Russian domination as the Ukraine was for the 250 years prior to 2014 when Putin’s puppet was overthrown for murdering Ukrainians protesting their Government being dominated by Russia.
Perhaps this is undoing Obama but more likely it is just being himself a Russian puppet, but the big story about Trump and the Ukraine is that against American interests Trump’s policies have been to get the Ukraine and Russia back together as they were before Obama.
And as bad as trying to get a foreign leader to dig up dirt on a political opponent thereby hiring a foreign Government to intervene in an American election, trying to put the Ukraine back under Russian control is much worse.
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I don’t think there is any truth to this rationale. With Preshitident Skanky and his family it is always about money and sex.
Or eastern Europe. Oh wait, that won’t help ; - )