Powell, Wood, Other Big Lie Attorneys Ordered To Pay $175,000 In Gov’t Legal Fees | Talking Points Memo

A federal judge in Michigan ordered several Trumpy attorneys including Sidney Powell and Lin Wood to pay $175,000 in attorneys fees to the state of Michigan and city of Detroit on Thursday — part of court-ordered sanctions for a frivolous lawsuit to overturn the 2020 election. 


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1396864

A federal judge in Michigan ordered several Trumpy attorneys including Sidney Powell and Lin Wood to pay $175,000 in attorneys fees to the state of Michigan and city of Detroit on Thursday

No wonder Lin Wood wants Rittenhouse’s bail money. He’s got a lot of court-ordered fines to pay.

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So this is “just” the federal judge sanctioning them for the costs involved in litigating their frivolous suit(s). Still waiting on any disciplinary actions from their respective states’ bars, though I understand some of their hearings have already taken place.

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No wonder there’s a feeding frenzy in Q-land. The party’s over and the bill is due. And they can just ask ole Rudy how much loyalty Trump’s going to show them. Especially as they’re losers.

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Now we wait and see whether the extremely Trumpy 6th Circuit is willing to bail them out. My guess is no, but that’s not a foregone conclusion.

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I first read that as Grumpy.

So how are dollar amounts divvied up among the ninny nine?

IT IS ORDERED that Plaintiffs’ attorneys Sidney Powell, L. Lin Wood,
Howard Kleinhendler, Gregory Rohl, Stefanie Lynn Junttila, Emily Newman, Julia
Z. Haller, Brandon Johnson, and Scott Hagerstrom, jointly and severally, are to pay
the following amounts as sanctions within 30 days of this Opinion and Order:

  1. To Defendants Gretchen Whitmer and Jocelyn Benson, the sum of
    $21,964.75; and,
  2. To the City of Detroit, the sum of $153,285.62.
    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that if any party appeals this Opinion and
    Order or the Court’s August 25, 2021 decision, the obligation to pay the above
    sanctions is STAYED pending resolution of all appeals.

“Jointly and severally” means they’re all on the hook for the full amount until paid. Defendants can go after whichever one is easiest to collect from, they can settle up among themselves to get paid back.

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So this part of the story isn’t over yet. Can any one of the minor players make a deal, say, of paying $10k to be released from further obligation, thus shifting the remainder of the fine onto the others?

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ZED: Containment may be a moot point, my friend. The exodus continues. It’s like the party’s over and the last one to leave gets stuck with the check.

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Yes, but there’s not much point because the others can still come after them for their equal share of the total.

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The party’s over
It’s time to call it a day
They’ve burst your pretty balloon
And taken the moon away
It’s time to wind up the masquerade
Just make your mind up the piper must be paid

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Also, I’m not sure what incentive the defendants would have to settle for anything less than all the court ordered, that is, put it to Sidney et al. to work out an allocation among themselves that ensures the court’s order is satisfied. At least on the surface, the defendants seem to be in a pretty good position for that, absent some compelling reason for an early settlement with one of these attorneys (e.g., settling with someone early while, e.g., Lin pursues his likely appeal, so that some cash comes in). Now, there may be issues about their ability to pay (this doesn’t look like a situation where the client is likely to contribute, and did Flynn - or anyone - pay Sidney’s bill from that effort?) so possibly one or more attorneys have an ability-to-pay problem that might militate in favor of a compromise but, again, the defendants are situated to evaluate that.

I too look forward more to the conclusions of the state attorney disciplinary committee authorities when the time comes, and that is by no means limited to these attorneys. The names Mitchell and Eastman come to mind, Giuliani less so, depending on my capacity for pity.

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They could still go after the rest of the “defendants” (they’re not actually defendants here) for the rest of the full award. Although it’s possible those defendants could benefit from something like a settlement credit. Anyway, it’s all very arcane from the “defendants’” perspective. From the claimants’ side, it just means you get to execute the judgment on anyone and everyone you want until you’re paid in full, and fuck those guys they get to fight it out among themselves whether and how that pay back each other.

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Good luck collecting from these reprobates. Getting money judgements in white collar settlements is super slow and rare unless the bad guys have liability insurance.

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Thanks for the opportunity to clarify, by “defendants” I mean the parties whom Sidney et al named as defendants in the complaint and to whom the court has awarded attorney’s fees.

I can’t help but be reminded of Trump’s amateurish, pre-election “we’ll give them haircuts” threat, when the prospect of defaulting on national debt was under discussion. Perhaps this will be his advice to Sidney.

Never noticed the leopard footwear before.

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I’m sure Trump and his various PACS, maybe even the RNC, will be more than happy to help cover these sanctions.

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Even the 6th Circuit (and the 5th) are realizing the landscape is changing and protecting/promoting Trump is not in the Judiciary’s best interest.

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Will the Republican National Committee pay these fines? As long as the mob stays together and no one talks, Jonny law is SOL. Right? Right?

I dunno, seems that Frau Krakenstein should have been given a majority share.