Section 659:34-al seems much more clearly worded to address this specific situation. I hope certain attitudes will withdraw a bit.
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I get the principle there, but – in the absence of bad faith – why should a voter who recently relocated across state lines be prohibited from participating in a primary election for the elected officeholders in their new state? And if you accept the principle that they should have a voice in who’s going to appear on the general election ballot, its it really that big a deal if they get to express their primary preferences for federal offices on two different state ballots in the same year?
All in all, I expect that the number of people who gain an extra primary ballot due to relocation is pretty much balanced out by the number of people who lose out on a primary ballot altogether thanks to their own relocation. And neither of those respective numbers is large enough for me to get especially worked up about it, given that we don’t have a nationwide primary election day.
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So it’s illegal for a New Hampshire voter to cast a perfectly legal ballot in its presidential primary, then to move out of state before casting an otherwise perfectly legal ballot in their new home’s general election? I’m pretty sure that statute’s going to have some issues with the Constitution and some federal voting rights statutes.
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Geez. Seems to me voting in two places in the same election just might be an election violation. Which seems to be @cassandram’s point. And accusing someone you don’t know of not knowing anything also seems rather harsh and not something that, under these circumstances, is likely to advance these threads.
Just an observation from someone who more often than not supports you.
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Yes, that would be a problem. Fortunately for the particular schmuck at issue, the federal law we’re talking about prohibits the casting of multiple votes in “an election,” singular. The New Hampshire primary and the New Jersey primary are two different elections. Hence, he’s in the clear (under the federal statute – state laws may vary).
If they are moving to a new permanent residence, then they knew damn well they were moving and shouldn’t have voted in the election in the location where they no longer intended to be a permanent resident. If that intention somehow magically changed abruptly in between those two voting days in different states (not “elections”) then they should be considered to have spent their one permissible vote on the first voting day, because nobody should not be allowed to game the system, regardless of whether it came about “innocently.” That rare person should still only be allowed their one vote so as to protect the integrity of the system.
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Voting in one primary, moving and then voting in another states primary doesn’t seem like that big of a deal if the residency of each location are valid. Not to be mixed with Meadows who used a flase address to register and vote in a general election at a location/state he did not live in.
Edit: while I say it sounds like it’s not a big deal, people have gone to jail for things that sound like not a big deal, depends on the voting laws of each state.
Yes. A much nicer way of saying it, thank you.
It does seem pretty tough–probably a result of all those Massachusetts carpetbaggers sneaking over to try to influence the results of the NH primary.
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moved
And yet that’s not illegal. No state gets to predicate an eligible voter’s right to participate in a primary or a caucus based on their intent to stick around in the state until the general. And if a newly-arrived resident’s local laws allow them to register and vote in their second primary of the year, it certainly doesn’t harm the interests of State No. 1.
Accused sex trafficker Matt Gaetz, they keep forgetting to add that part when they have a story about whatever stupid thing he is doing at the time.
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False. You only get to register to vote if you intend that state as your permanent residence. You are twisting it to fit the freedom to travel issue. That’s not the issue. If you have voted in one state, you don’t just get to then re-register in another state to get to vote for two or more representatives. That is effectively giving yourself multiple votes. You have taken an action that prohibits the second action thereby making it perfectly acceptable for the second state to deny you a second vote in that election.
Pretending primary elections are each their own separate election, such that you’re not voting twice in an “election” even though you are casting 2 or more votes to determine the eventual outcomes in November is complete fucking batshit. Yes, there is no legal precedent for how this IS decided. Yes, you can make bullshit arguments that the system allows you to game it. But if we’re speaking honestly about how it SHOULD work, then you should be tagged as already having voted once you have made your choice of state and district in which to vote for an “election”, meaning the entire process that starts with primaries and ends with the actual choosing of someone as the winner of the elected office. If that means you have to wait until the next election cycle in your new state of residence, then there’s really no hardship. You’re certainly not being denied your rights in that situation either.
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Criming, is an initiation rite for GOPhers.
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What about residency requirements? I’m pretty certain we have them in Colorado but can’t recall how long you have to be a resident to qualify to vote in a primary or other election.
Incorrect. Formulations vary from state-to-state, but it boils down to you get to register where your current residence is, not where you think or even expect you’ll be residing at the time of the general election. Only Delaware purports to require that you have “permanent residence” there, and I rather doubt they take that to mean it quite so future-tense as you are proposing.
Handy voter eligibility comparer here: Voter Registration Rules - Vote.org
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Gee just one at random makes you wrong.
be a legal resident of Washington State, your county, and precinct for 30 days immediately preceding Election Day;
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Federal statute says states can’t require more than 30 days of residency before a transplant is allowed to vote. Some states require even less than 30 days, but it varies from place to place.
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What you did gave you one vote in the primaries and one vote in the general. What he did gave him two votes in the primaries and one in the general.
Most Americans recognize this as morally wrong and would not do it even if it is legal. My guess is that if it is not now illegal it will be soon.
The votes were technically cast for that state’s electors but the actual choice was who was going to be in the same office.