Michigan Judge Gives Whitmer A Win In Legislature’s Lawsuit

Michigan Court of Claims Judge Cynthia Stephens ruled that Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s (D) emergency declaration and accompanying stay-at-home orders were legal, a big initial win in a case that may end up at the state Supreme Court.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1310346
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Meanwhile deaths and infections in ga, fl, and Texas are going up. Wisconsin has started to go the same way.

Who owned the deaths is going to be what this falls election is about, and as deaths/infections climb, there is no way the economy gets back to normal no matter what pub governors or trump demand, yell, whine.

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Because rethugs want you dead,so there!

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Since Gretchen is in the process of re-opening the state hopefully it won’t go to the SC and the repubs will just go home with their tails between their legs.

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OT, from the editorial column:
Hedge Fund Chief Says It’s Time to Go For Herd Immunity

It’d be a little more realistic if it read, Hedge Fund Chief Say It’s Time to Go for Mass Murder.
Josh does make that clear in the editorial; but, for real, we don’t even know that there is acquired immunity for covid-19. This is a blatant call for putting profits before people lives,
Please pardon: it’s so twisted, I had to comment.

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Court Rules Deplorables Deplorable. But I think everyone’s beginning to get the idea.

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This was expected. The only question remaining is why did the GOP Michigan-ers stake out a losing position from the start?

But that’s a rhetorical question, I suppose: they’re GOP.

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Whitmer is opening things up faster then she should. We are more the the flattening stage then the controlling stage. No matter what she does the folks up north are going to hate what she does.
I don’t even think the protestors know what they are protesting. Most are making more Money on unemployment then they would if they were working. I mean beside her being a woman.
I am shielded very well living in Ann Arbor, but when I run into a true believer, I am stunned. Nothing they say makes any sense.

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Gov. Gretchen Whitmer announced Thursday she has lifted restrictions on retail businesses and auto dealerships across the state starting May 26, but visits must be made by appointment.

She also announced the state would lift restrictions on medical, dental and veterinary procedures deemed nonessential starting May 29.

The order will ease restrictions on gatherings, allowing for gatherings of 10 or fewer people, effective immediately.

"The data shows that Michigan is ready to phase in these sectors of our economy, but we must stay vigilant and ensure we’re doing everything we can to protect ourselves and our families from the spread of COVID-19,” Whitmer said.

Even with the lifting of some restrictions, Whitmer expects she will need to extend the stay-home order in the coming days. The extension would mean those businesses not included in the new orders — such as restaurants and gyms — would remain closed for a while longer downstate.

The extension of those restrictions will allow the state to gauge whether the loosening of other restrictions created a spike in coronavirus cases.

The Michigan Health and Hospital Association said Whitmer’s announcement was a positive step for residents, who would be able to resume normal healthcare visits.

Also, Trump had to do this. But it didn’t hurt that that the area is pretty red. Good for Michigan though

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Michigan’s Supreme Court is 4-3, Republican.

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I’ll go for herd immunity after that asshole and Lloyd Blankfein and the rest of the plutocrats get in the front line of bagging my goddamn groceries for 6 months.

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https://twitter.com/nataliexdean/status/1258912181569163264

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One of the republicans, a woman, seems to be more reasonable. This is no time for partisan politics, and I would like to think the decision will be a fair interpretation of the law.

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Plus, it ignores the costs with how herd immunity is actually achieved. Lacking a vaccine, you have to allow the majority of people to get infected and deal with the ramifications. I’m just wondering why we never went that route with polio in the 1940s before there was a vaccine. We could have eradicated polio via herd immunity decades earlier than we did (and still haven’t in parts of the world). Why didn’t we do it (aren’t we doing it)?

Europeans developed herd immunity for small pox. It probably only took a few million lives over several centuries to achieve. And it worked out so well when they reached the new world…

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I hope that the state court rules wisely, but 2020 is still scaring me sh–tless.

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I like that phrasing, going for mass murder. I hope it is used again. I plan to use it, in appropriate discussions.

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Sweden went that route. So far they have 384 deaths per million, and that the 6th highest in the world. USA is at 291. Germany is a 99. Sweden at 1/8 the population of Germany has only still 46% of their deaths.

That’s what heard immunity does for you.

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Why? Why is the legislature suing?

Do they want people to die?

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YES!!!

At least Whitmer has more reasonable people around her than Evers has.

As to the numbers for Wisconsin, yes, they’re going up. I’m waiting for them to move into the four digit daily range.

But at the same time, I don’t know if they really will. Here’s why: the vast majority of Wisconsin citizens are listening to reality and not to the nutcases. What I’ll be watching for will be significant increases coming out of Minnesota - particularly St. Paul - and Illinois. Those are the folks that have decided it’s open season on Wisconsin and will probably take some lovely parting gifts back home with them.

Don’t let me stop them.

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The basis of his argument:

On a CNBC appearance yesterday he lamented “how the politicians and the media and the academic community and the scientific community have taken hold of this debate.”

Yeah, in the middle of a deadly global pandemic, the last thing you want is decisions driven by government, the press, scholars, and scientists.

Instead of the One-Percent-of-the-One-Percent worried about their obscene fortunes.

Even the idiots on Gilligan’s Island listened to the professor instead of the millionaire.

(h/t CD102.5-FM)

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