Manchin Threatens To Derail Entire Democratic Agenda With Spending Squeamishness

Hard disagree. (We’ve been over this already.)

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Nope

Cincinnatus was awesome.

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Apple is building a more populous campus in Austin than it has in Cupertino. And every other Tech company has a huge presence there.

Silence from all of them on voting and women’s rights? Afraid of losing unconscionable tax breaks? Probably.

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w. va/ is the opioid capitol of the country. get away from the enclaves of FED. EMPLOYEES who live there, and the rest is dirt poor…

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One of my closest friends and his wife are from Clarksburg. Her family was very much wrapped up in the mob - friend used to tell me, while they were dating, he would go over to her place and Dad would ask him to help count the stacks of money sitting on the coffee table - proceeds from the local ‘business’. Friend used to say he and his wife were the white sheep of the family.

Then there’s the joke I heard at an Atlantic City comedy club that has always stuck with me - even my friend enjoyed it:

Why will there never be a CSI: West Virginia?

There are only five strands of DNA in the State.

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He only said he has no plan to file, not that he would not file.

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AOC has no idea what her job is…she goes for the publicity…she needs to go home and learn something about it all works. she is not calledl ‘Always On Camera’ for no reason.

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Why is her suggested thirst for publicity any different from any of the other congresscritters? She’s gotten a bunch of her sponsored bills passed, more in a shorter time than others.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Why single her out for what all the rest do on a regular basis?

You have no problem with Lindsey, who does this on the slightest provocation? Tell me what bills he’s sponsored and gotten through Congress to deserve the attention he’s gotten. He’s managed to pass 18 bills into law in his decades in the Senate. She’s gotten 21 passed in just one term.

Lindsey Graham, Senator for South Carolina - GovTrack.us

Try pointing to the real show-boaters in the group. She’s doing a lot more than others are.

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Manchin may be the most unreliable and self-dealing D. Senator since LIeberman, but you govern with the elected officials you have, not the ones you wish you had. Right now, every Requblican Senator, and every pro-Requblican lobbyist in Washington and in all the provinces is lined up in front of Manchin, promising to fellate him if he’ll change parties. He’s eventually going to make that jump. It’s therefore crucial to lock down whatever we can lock down now, before he changes parties or one of the octogenarians in the D. Senate caucus croaks and is replaced by a Requblican governor. Tick tock.

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Not a fan of either Lyndsey or AOC. But here’s a note on “bill sponsorship”. When a bill is moving through the Congressional process and toward enactment, anyone can sign on as a sponsor. Sometimes there will be fifty or more sponsors by the time a bill passes.

I’m not aware of any bill that has become law that was AOC’s original idea. I confess, however, to not having done any research on this, so if you know of any, I’d love to see them and would happily give her credit… if I was in agreement!

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Point well taken. Not certain, however, that Manchin will switch parties unless we pretty much push him out. There’s a reason for this— and it ain’t pretty. There are plenty of W.Va Republicans who want that seat, and it’s not clear that Manchin could prevail over a strong Republican in a primary.

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True, but McCarthy’s using that as an example of the law supposedly not being harmful. He knows that the potential is there, but the lie is a lot more attractive.

This seems to be pretty comprehensive.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Just checked from your list. I looked at the first 10 bills listed. She is the sponsor of only one of them. The one bill she sponsored has gone nowhere.

Now, I don’t mean this as a slam at her, but only a caution about taking her self-promotion seriously.

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If it’s not on this one, it’s on the other site I looked at, which allowed one to filter on ‘Law’, meaning it’s been signed by the Pres.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Was here:

She is not the sponsor of a single one of these bills that became law.

Fine - and using my other example of Graham? How many did he sponsor that became law?

Look, you can pick on her all you want. It’s fine - she doesn’t represent me and I will bet money that she doesn’t represent you.

Until her constituents are unhappy with her and send her home, she’ll be there, just like the other 453 members of the House and 100 members of the Senate. And some of them are far more useless than Ocasio.

Well, I think we agree! Which is a much happier place to be on the Sunday before Labor Day.

As to Lyndsey Graham, none of my South Carolina family voted for him, and I don’t think either of us need to waste our holiday weekend trying to find legislation he sponsored that became law.

But here’s an interesting fun fact about AOC. New York will lose one seat in the state-by-state distribution of Congressional seats for the 2022 midterms. Although the state will lose one seat, the number of Democratic seats is likely to increase through the magical alchemy of a Democratic legislature working with a Democratic Governor. One of the potential redistricting maps floating around would redraw AOC’s district to include a nice chunk of Westchester County. If you know New York State geography, you know what a delicious and karmic development this would be.

Cheers. Have a great weekend.

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you don’t know me well enough to say who/what i have problems with…however, i will enlighten you…i don’t
have ‘problems’ with any of them…i have no idea what you consider a ‘problem’.

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