Someone wanted to bill his vacation property to the taxpayer.
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Sometimes “we must do without hope”, Aragon, from the Fellowship of the Ring after leaving Moria after the fall of Gandalf.
There is no hope for this Supreme Court when it comes to voting rights. In fact the Republican states are merely passing laws in accordance with decisions by this Supreme Court which as TPM in previous articles has reported, laid out for Trump and Republicans how to steal an election. It is just there was not enough time and the election was not close enough. The best article on this was written by Josh Marshal.
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EXACTLY my point.
The States are following the road map to suppress votes and steal elections as laid out by Chief Injustice Roberts. Again, there is some hope they may not want to go as far as voter nullification, but if it helps Republicans even that hope is less than 10%.
Do you remember 2000 because that is what they said in 2000, the Supreme Court won’t touch it.
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No ballots were taken out of Maricopa County, at least that we know of. What ended up in Montana was a copy of the county’s electronic election data, presumably the voter registration and participation files and the tabulation data. It’s skeevy as hell, but the original data is still on Maricopa’s servers.
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I think you and @dangoodbar are operating on different timelines. The most repressive laws, like the Georgia laws that are the subject of this suit, were passed after Twice Impeached lost reelection. The Court’s approach to laws that were passed after Roberts inane decision in Shelby County is not encouraging.
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It’s a sad day when the time honored tradition of hassling poor and minority voters is disparaged like this. A nation needs traditions. They’re the glue that holds us together.
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Do you remember 2020? Because that is what I said, the Supreme Court is not going to touch any of Trump’s legal horseshit. And yet here we sit in your alternate universe where Trump is still president and the Department of Justice are a bunch of preemptive losers incapable of doing jack shit about state deprivation of voting rights.
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Oh, so you’re ready to declare preemptive defeat too?
Merrick Effing Garland is suing Georgia for its transparently racist efforts to suppress black votes. This is a good thing.
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Marc Elias
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The reason Trump is not president is that the 2020 election was really not all that close.
You can make an argument that it was but it requires 3 to 4 states to have their vote counts changed or 3 to 4 states whose legislatures and in some cases governors to go along.
So well the Supreme Court, as best reported by Josh Marshall of TPM did layout a road map for Republicans to steal the 2020 election. Again, it was just not close enough and would have required actions in multiple states.
Which brings up the very reasons for the current laws being passed in Republican states. It is so the next election can be, and without congressional action to perhaps include adding to the Supreme Court, in some states and for some offices will be stolen. That is Republican controlled states using the road map laid out for them by Supreme Court are making sure there will be no repeat of 2020.
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Can I nominate Marc Elias for the Presidential Medal of Freedom? Where do I put his name in?
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Aragon, Helm’s Deep as siege begins, “there is always hope.”
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Get off your high horse.
Roberts created the environment for these repressive laws and hasn’t shown much concern about protecting voting rights, giving far too much deference to state legislatures. Predicting what the Court will do is always a fool’s errand, but your optimism has no better standing than our pessimism. And the last time I checked, Merrick Effing Garland was not on the Court so he won’t be involved in the final resolution.
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Your quote is in the movie, not in the book. My quote after Moria is in both.
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The only thing the Supreme Court has ever said that comes close to this nonsense is Rehnquist’s concurrence in Bush v. Gore. And you’re right, that totally worked in 2020! Trump is still president in your shitty alternative reality!
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Methinks there is perhaps a wee bit of Garland’s psyche that is understandably, permanently, pissed at what McTurtle did to his SCOTUS nomination. And real payback needs some prep time to do it right.
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I have expressed no optimism about the merits of this lawsuit. I am merely happy that it is being pursued (rather vigorously, if today’s prominent announcement is any indicator) and refuse to declare preemptive defeat. We have no freaking idea yet how this thing is going to end up.
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Money talks, bullshit walks. So put up or shut up. I got $1,000 that says the Supreme Court will uphold the Georgia law. For the umpteenth time, again as reported by Josh Marshall of TPM, the 2020 election was just not that close and states did not have enough time to follow the road map laid out by Chief Injustice Roberts.
That is what the states are doing now is putting in the work ahead of the next election so that with the blessing of the Supreme Court the election will be stolen.
And as for Bush v Gore, I suggest you read the comments of Sandra Day O’Conner after leaving the court where she admitted and regretted stealing the 2000 election.
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There was quite a bit of well-reasoned debate post-election and breaths being held for good reason.
With a relative handful of votes different in a handful of States, and had it all come down to PA and not four States, are you so confident that the Supremes would not have interfered?
I’m not confident of that. MoscowMitch and trump didn’t conspire to have Amy rushed to the bench before the election to not have her ready at a moment’s notice to provide a crucial vote on election matters.
Rather, I think we were saved from anything because, in order to change the outcome, they would have had to overturn at least four States’ results. Had it been another shot like Florida 2000, we might very well be looking at a second trump term right now.
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