Listen Live: SCOTUS Hears Arguments On Legality Of Trump’s Hijacking Of The Census | Talking Points Memo

The Supreme Court hears arguments Monday on the legality of President Trump’s census policy that seeks to exclude undocumented immigrants from the count used to determine how many House seats each states get.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1346715

Let’s see how bad of a Supreme Court Yertle bought…

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At stake is at least a few and possibly several House seats that can be shifted away from immigrant-rich states like California, and towards whiter, more Republican areas of the country.

This is a big deal. They’re trying to create a similar structural advantage in the House to what they have in the senate, where a bunch of tiny whitey states means the GOP starts out with +6 seats before the normal states are contested. When the 2020 election is done the Democrats’ House margin will be in the single digits.

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Yertle the Turtle. I like it.

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The court has already flexed its theocratic muscle by ruling religious gatherings are more important than public health. Will they now flex their fascist/ideological muscle by ruling that GOP viability concerns trump the constitution?

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I can’t wait to hear the “originalists” tell us how the words on the page don’t mean what they mean.

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SCOTUS has now become the place where progressive legislation will go to die. There is no question that this is what we have been handed by McConnell. From religious “freedom”, to women’s health, corporate greed and climate change, we will be stymied by lawsuits followed by endless appeals and our future will be decided by Thomas, Barrett, Alito, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch. Roberts has been effectively neutered, and the liberal justices will be there to write flaming opinions that illuminate but do not change anything.

And the most tragic of these is climate change.

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Oy, I know how important this is but is this really how I want to start off my week? I mean, its only Monday.

I feel like we already know what kind of shitty, unprecedented nonsense these rightwing ideologues in robes are willing to reach in order to make decisions that keep minority rule the law of the land. Pretty sure at least half of them have already made up their minds before hearing any arguments. Its kinda what they’re known for.

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This will be a 9-0 decision. It’s not a remotely close question. I doubt whether even Thomas or Alito will issue a weird-ass concurrence.

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It’s appalling that the AGs are being addressed by the Justices as “General,” as though it were a rank.

It means “all-purpose” in the title “Attorney General.”

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Are you trying to tell me that General Mills isn’t a four-star, at least?

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The correct title is “Counsel.”

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Thank you!

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Common practice in US court-rooms.

The Solicitor General is addressed the same way.

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But I think that’s the original meaning in military too – “general officer” – then the adjective became a noun.

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Should be, but I am not yet as sure as you are about what the right-wingers will do.

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That’s as may be, but as @txlawyer pointed out, the correct form of address is “Counsel.”

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It gets confusing with the Surgeon General, however, because he’s in uniform. He is, title notwithstanding, a Vice Admiral.

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For some of them, the correct title is unprintable.

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Am I wrong in reading that challenging counsel is not doing a great job explaining the functional distinction between the main report and the hypothetical supplemental?

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