I would agree. I hope they squeeze is nuts if they can find them.
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RogerâŚand Flynn.
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IANAL, but the Presidential Records Act has a lot of language setting out various rules for access to Presidential records, incumbents and ex. Does merely the fact Trump is out of office mean the National Archivist has to fork over anything and everything, to anyone with even the most remotely plausible reason for wanting it?
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Are you asking about the Presidential Records Act â which doesnât apply to documents that are not presidential records, such as the ones requested of these tech companies â with respect to these particular document requests, or more generally?
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Hereâs hoping he gets really, really angry at this latest news. Livid, in fact. Shouting-and- pounding-the-table-angry!
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Youâre born, you live, you die. Whatâs the point?
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I assume Trump canât assert privilege on the class of documents you cite. But certainly many people that worked for Trump, and Trump himself, might feel a good deal of what the committee seeks are a Presidential record relating to Executive Branch business. Written and spoken communications that are incriminating as to Jan6 and the overall effort to reverse the election. I suppose in my mind the fuzzy part might be who controls the classifying of the documents? And who is the arbiter if Trump alleges something demanded should fall under the category of official Presidential business? And if it wasnât classified as official Presidential business when the archivist logged in everything can Trump request or demand post-Presidency an item be moved from a category that exposes it to unfettered release to the committee to the category of official business, in an attempt to shield it? Can Trump allege something was misclassified upon leaving office, and litigate it?
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I know this isnât exactly on topic, since it is about COVID disinfo, not Chump/election disinfo
but WTF?
My wife and I have spent 20 years making sure we didnât have a single thing on any website or social mediaâŚor even yard signsâŚthat could in the slightest way be used against us. We both watched, in mainly white Wisconsin, as our workplaces were rife with anti-Lib commentary and pro RW political talk. All the time. Often coming from The Top. And we knew that our companies were dying to find anything overtly political they could use against a Liberal to take us out. All the while, rampant RW assholery was perfectly acceptable.
Now all we hear is how cancelled the rubes are. And in the article above, we see a paid community employee is blasting out bullshit on his social media, and his workmates are heart-broken? His boss is heartbroken? How about âwe fired his ass years ago for being overtly political and spreading disinformationâ on social media which is not something we allow our âpower of life and deathâ municipal employees to engage in. 13 days ago he was dissing libs and pushing horse de-wormer. Now heâs dead.
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Believe me, the GOP isnât worried and has no concerns about the 12 soldiers killed by terrorists in Afghanistan. THIS is what theyâre truly worried about. THIS is their worst nightmare. Unlike the laughably stupid GOP BENGHAZI!!! fiasco, the January 6th committee knows what it is doing and isnât fucking around. That is why I am so happy that the Republicans were stupid enough to reject the bipartisan Senate investigation, where they would have had a veto over any subpoenas.
Of course, true justice would be to have their hearts torn out of their chests and stuffed like Spanish olives. But I think I can settle for a little less. Iâm a simple man, and I donât ask for much.
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The point is to stop the projected win by Republicans in November 2022. Democratic surrender at this point is sure to give the house to the GOP.
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Trump canât assert privilege or really much of anything on documents held by Facebook, Google, Parler, etc. The overwhelming majority of what the committee is requesting here were not written by or directed to Trump, and none of them are government records.
No. A âPresidential Recordâ is one that is generated by the Executive Office in the course of its activities. Itâs not a bunch of Oath Keepers talking shit about the stolen election in a chat room. Not even Sidney Powell would file a lawsuit for Trump trying to claim that Facebook canât turn over its records because theyâre presidential materials.
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I hope he suffered unimaginable pain. I really do. I have no sympathy for these stupid fuckers, especially the ones who tried so hard to make other people suffer.
And I guess that massive truckload of thoughts and prayers was late again. Must be a driver shortage due to the COVID virus.
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So if Mark Meadows and Trump had a meeting in the Oval Office about devising a scheme to flip electors in a sufficient number of states the election would tilt to Trump is that a âPresidential Recordâ?
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of your comment?
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That canât be an illustration of Trumpâs heart, because itâs missing the 3/4" layer of bacon fat.
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Right - they could care less about the 12 dead, but they love THE HELL OUT OF IT because they can use it like a club. And now, in a total switcheroo from COVID in the time of CHUMPâŚthey donât really mind the death toll if they can somehow make it sound like Bidenâs fault.
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I try not to wish actual pain on too many people, but I do wish them extra-quick deaths so theyâll free up the ventilator for somebody more worthy of it.
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Hardly. âCognitive dissonanceâ is something unknown to many of these folks, along with âlogical consistencyâ, âcommon senseâ, and âreality.â
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Do we have to review the concept of Executive Privilege in the law. It isnât nearly as expansive as you would make it out. There are actually multiple levels of Executive Privilege that diminish the further away the person requested is from the President. In no case does the concept shield anyone from overt criminal activity. That protection is afforded by the 5th Amendment. Nothing is more criminal that inciting an insurrection against the United States government.
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Yeah, itâs really too bad he didnât pull through. I mean, the ivermectin didnât cure his COVID, but he would have been in great shape to race in next yearâs Preakness!
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