Jan. 6 Panel Did Not Ask Cipollone To Confirm Hutchinson’s Testimony

Technically speaking, his job as White House Counsel was to advise the President as holder of that office, not be that individual’s personal lawyer. But yeah, there’s a lot of “protecting the boss” here under the guise of executive privilege and lawyer/client privilege.

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He waives his pretend executive privilege. (Although I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to wave it as with a wizard wand.)

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Up is down and down is up, so I guess you’re right.

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Also this re: Bannon

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Two Hearings for the upcoming week. I cannot see where the J6 would let one person wreck all that they have achieved.

@katscherger

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Some people, yeah some people who suck sweaty balls of chosen one Queen Mega-LardO.
Loyalty to some, but not America.
Dog damned heart breaking. :broken_heart:

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Re: Bannon

Doesn’t the fact that he has repeatedly claimed he wants to destroy our institutions and rebuild them from scratch pretty much implicate him regarding the riot of January 6th?

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What he says is protected speech. What actions he took with respect to the riot, like sitting in on meetings where a violent attack was planned, would be important.

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When I was in middle school my class was walking in a line to gym class. A bully was behind me and hassling me by poking me with his finger. We happened to be right in front of the principle’s off when I turned and socked that kid in the nose. The principle saw the whole thing as his office door was open. I’d given that kid a bloody nose. So, I missed gym class that day. The principle, who was a close friend of my dad’s called my dad and he had to come and drive me home On the way home he did not scold me because he knew I’d stood up for myself against a bully. Oddly that bully and me became friends.

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Trump does not need to have anything on anyone.
He has assault rifles in the hands of brainless idiots that threaten anyone who stands up to , or speaks unkindly, to Dumb Fuck Donnie.

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Maybe pregnant women get a deal on XL body armor.

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(shakes head). I don’t do well with bullies. I don’t put up with their shit.

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That’s why I refer to it as Meet The Presstitutes.

I’m old enough to remember when Lawrence Spivak hosted Meet The Press and he NEVER pulled punches on anyone. Bill Munro was cut out of the same cloth. But when Roger Mudd took over that’s when Meet The Press went downhill and just became another cog in the GOP BS Machine.

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I found this article from Lawfare, back in 2017, when Don McGahn was mangling the job of WH Legal Counsel. Obama’s WH Counsel wrote this article. Here is his take on the enumerated job duties:

But there are a few guidelines, working principles, which have emerged from this tumultuous experience and help clarify the proper role of the White House Counsel.

First is the one already noted: the counsel in any situation must be clear about the “client” interest she is serving when giving advice. It may often be that good advice serves all the relevant interests—the particular president’s, the Office’s, and the public’s. But this can be a more complex and demanding judgment than it seems.

Second, the White House Counsel is the lawyer and not the client, an agent and not a principal. It is one of the reasons that White House Counsels do well, as a general matter, to refrain from weighing in on the substance of policy questions. It is usually a mistake for the Counsel to attempt to be both lawyer and a constituent member of the “client,” because if engaged in policy, the lawyer may be inclined toward a legal position helpful to her policy preference, and others in the policy debate may suspect bias (even if there is none) and lose confidence in the Counsel’s professional objectivity.

Third, the lawyer has special responsibility for legal and ethics compliance within the West Wing. She may have to advise on a wide range of areas, increasingly including national security, but a bedrock responsibility is ensuring the adherence to law and ethics standards by the President and the staff.

Fourth, the White House Counsel has to be an honest broker in matters of process in which she is involved. The resolution of legal issues that concern the president may be the primary responsibility, or require the participation, of the legal staffs of other Departments or agencies. The Counsel has a role in assuring that whenever she will be the one fashioning and delivering the advice, all informed views of affected agencies considered. There are other instances in which she is not the appropriate legal decision-maker or adviser, but coordinates the development and delivery of the advice.

Finally, the Counsel must determine how all of these responsibilities are most effectively performed in the particular presidency, taking into consideration the specific tone set, the policies emphasized, and the political challenges faced by the occupant of the office. This is not to suggest that the White House Counsel is just the president’s lawyer and must keep closely attuned to what that president wants. It means that the lawyer cannot represent all the relevant interests without a thoroughgoing appreciation of the political and policy environment within which she is working.

ETA: I bolded the Third section. That is the one I think is most important…

I think Cipollone’s testimony to the J6 Committee is going to turn out to be a nothingburger. Especially given that he seems to “not remember” saying one of the most important things attributed to him by others. Convenient – but fully cooperating.

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The J6 Hearings have been more successful than we thought. In the meantime, we have been reminded that the Right does not intend to lay down and give up :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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The J6 Committee has yet to oversell any of the testimony or hearings.

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You are correct, but that’s not how the fascist yam sees it.
@zenicetus
@Hatmama

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It marks a bullseye on the motive, for sure.

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I never said that I hoped my opinion was the right one.

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I had something similar happen, but the result was a bunch of broken front teeth and no friendship. I’m not still afraid of the bully, though!

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