Italy’s Death Toll Officially Surpasses Fatalities In China

ROME (AP) — The death toll in Italy from the coronavirus overtook China’s on Thursday, and infections in the United States climbed past 10,000, in a stark illustration of how the crisis has pivoted toward the West.


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I just read this elsewhere.

God I hate this so much.

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One can only hope American death toll will NOT surpass Italy!

The buck stops with you Trump!

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This is America. With the current governmental response, I think we’ll break the total death record. Yes, winning. :frowning:

Considering the population density of Wuhan in Hubei province and just about every other Chinese city, the density is so high that their only chance was to enforce stay-in-place. They clamped down HARD with loud speakers on every corner telling people that they had to stay inside. This slows down propagation by reducing the available quantity of infectable victims, but unless the virus is eradicated…that is, you don’t have asymptomatic cases continually producing virus on a relatively small scale…then the infection begins propagating once the enforcement is lifted. One of the problems with this disease is that corona viruses, like influenza viruses, are RNA viruses, which tend to mutate. That’s one reason why there is no currently available cure for the “common cold”, which is a set of corona viruses; the corona viruses can change via mutation during infection of a host.

We need a vaccine to reduce this disease from deadly to nuisance. Because corona viruses mutate, the vaccine will need to be a fairly broad spectrum, similar to what is done for influenza. With influenza, not only does the vaccine counter multiple types of flu, but it also provides a wider spectral response for each type of flu due to the way it is manufactured. In the US, one method we choose uses many chicken embryos to make influenza vaccine, and if each egg produces a slight mutation, then the product of that process, when all the outputs are mixed together, provide a wider response providing reasonable coverage.

I have read 2 articles comparing Italy and Japan to each other because of a high population of elderly.
Does anyone here know how Japan is faring?

US had 11.000 cases when I went to bed earlier tonight. It is now at 14,250. Tomorrow this time, if the prior days’ patterns hold, it will be over 28,000.

Japan has 943 reported cases at 1258 pm. 33 deaths.

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Have you moved out of NYC yet?

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I have been staying in my parents’ old home since Dec 24. In NJ… They remodeled my apt and listed it in January. It is in contract and pending coop board approval. We are in contract on the new buy place. Early May is closing date on the buy. Hopefully we (and my purchasers) will be able to move. But have not been living in my apartment since December. It was tough emotionally to empty it and store everything and move out, so I do not want to go back there. Plus, my two rescue sibling cats were traumatized during the relatively short drive to NJ. Next would be an over 2 hour drive. They loved it though when the apartment was completely empty and they had free rein over the whole place. Jeez, my elementary school teachers would be scolding me about how I cannot spell for crap in my mid sixties.

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If I recall, you are moving on to property with your son and grandchild?
Anyway, glad you are out of the city now.

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Son, daughter in law, two grandchildren. God willing. Yep.

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