I’m a Democrat. I care about their needs, I support $20-30 minimum wage. The GOP doesn’t. Every single grievance the youngsters in your world. care about Democrats do to. So, why are these non-boomers, Gen X & millennials voting for GOP and on campus in crowds supporting racists like Charlie Kirk? Can’t you see race is the wedge used to divide us politically? The Dems are not is focused there. You sound like GOP
Ask the youngsters, in your world Why are they voting GOP? There is not a single. GOP economic policy that helps them. Their policies cut education, healthcare and living wages.. Yet they vote for them. Why? I already know. It’s why they are called low intellect voters. GOP strips them of living wage, destroys healthcare and cuts welfare so there is no safety net.
Yet, these young folks blame Democrats. BS! The GOP has done nothing to help the under 40 working class. Not a damn thing. So, please tell me how voting MAGA meets their needs? .
Let them choke & starve on the racist hate of their own generation. We had our generation of
racist voters too, but we fought back with LBJ, Carter,Clinton & Obama even Biden.
While they voted for Trump TWICE. It’s their own generation politics not meeting their needs. Guess that’s why they’re called low intellect deplorables, eh?
So you are a Democrat. In 2024 Missourians passed 6 voter initiatives. Two of them were initiatives Democrats used to get behind. Increasing the minimum wage and legalizing abortion in the state constitution. You would have thought that the Democratic party would have used those victories to fuel a resurgence in Missouri. Nope, not the Democrats. Missouri is full of white shit kickers who don’t deserve anything more than the 3 out of state billionaire Republicans who control the state are willing to give them. The good Democrats like you are only interested in making sure the two majority black districts have Democratic representation. The next election they are slated to lose one of them.
I am sorry but racism is a bigger deal in both the Republican and Democratic parties than with the public at large.. Sadly neither party is willing to look at themselves in the mirror and Democrats just aren’t able to think outside the box and reclaim what they used to stand for.
Young white people aren’t blaming Democrats. They just realize that the Democrats don’t give a shit about them. That young people abandoned the Democratic party last election isn’t because the young people are at fault. The Democrats need to step up their game and start trying to appeal to young people. That means they need to figure out what young people want and need.
So you are a Democrat. In 2024 Missourians passed 6 voter initiatives. Two of them were initiatives Democrats used to get behind. Increasing the minimum wage and legalizing abortion in the state constitution.*
Ok, so the Democrats got the job done. Surely, the young people in your world can see it’s the Democrats voting & supporting them with policies that meet their needs. Not the GOP.
You would have thought that the Democratic party would have used those victories to fuel a resurgence in Missouri. Nope, not the Democrats. Missouri is full of white shit kickers who don’t deserve anything more than the 3 out of state billionaire Republicans who control the state are willing to give them. The good Democrats like you are only interested in making sure the two majority black districts have Democratic representation. The next election they are slated to lose one of them.
So, you acknowledge that Democrats support the policies for abortion & living wage but you have an issue when Democrats support 2 majority black districts. Why? Additional, Democratic districts are essential to flip the US Congress to Democratic majority. Are you opposed to that goal? It seems you have issue with race not the Democrats. As clearly the “good Democrats” passed initiatives and now seek to maintain a majority in Congress so that more Democratic economic policies can pass at both the state & federal level. Do you have issue with all red districts?
Will you please. provide evidence to support this?
Hmmm, this reasoning is convoluted. The Democrats support policies the young people care about & demonstrate that by passing initiatives for living wage & abortion yet young people think they don’t give a shit about them when Democrats also support majority black districts that vote to maintain the Democratic majorities. This does not make sense.. UNLESSiis a racial grievance & the voters who think such are racist as Democrats in the majority support alll Democrats
Sugar, I LIVE in Dixie. I know plenty of MAGAnuts. Please define what you think is “smart”, because I do not care if they are Lawyers, Doctors or any other kind of “successful” people, they are NOT smart. It takes some kind of stupid to buy the Fauxnooz/MAGA crap in the face of provable, observable facts. I do not engage in any political conversation with any of them because it hurts my brain to keep hearing the Fauxnooz drivel that they insist is “truth”. Crap like you just spewed to me in your reply. I am not in any “gated community” and your condescending assumptions are just plain offensive.The mess we are in is NOT all the faults of Democrats. If you are the least bit honest you will admit that the Republicans have cheated and cheated to take power, and they display the same arrogant attitude that you did in your reply that they know it all and they know better than anyone else.
New Dixiecrats are being created 24/7 by Fauxnooz, fundamental religion and general ignorance of history or basic lack of intelligence, so you are really dumb if you are unaware of that. Racism, the fear of being “replaced” by brown and black people, and the idea that because they are white, life should somehow reward them for that “achievement” is behind the new Dixiecrats thinking. As I said, these are not smart people, and THEY are the ones who have gotten us in this mess by falling for a con man who had a TV show. So quit blaming “the Dems” and open your brain.
I don’t deny what the Republicans have done. They have cheated and lied about themselves and what they stand for. Democrats on the other hand have worked hard to tell white working people in America that they don’t give a shit about them. Like your friends you have abandoned they are all deplorables. They don’t need good schools. They don’t need economic help. They are dying off so all Democrats need to be is the party of the minorities in America. Eventually demographics will deliver Texas and Florida to them.
I say that is all bullshit. Democrats need to stand for programs important to working Americans of all races and creeds. Which is something they don’t emphasize at all. Until they do Republican con men will have an undue influence over America.
Explain to me what policies popular with young working class whites Democrats supported? Did they lead a drive for higher wages? Paid lip service at best. Did they promote better or cheaper education for all/ Student debt forgiveness isn’t enough and it stood alone.
Their full throated support went to making sure urban black candidates succeeded. Not much as spent on suburban white candidates.
Wake up and smell the roses. Democrats weren’t solely responsible for their failure in 2024 but they didn’t really help grow the party. Harris was smart to pick Wall as her VP but the party didn’t use his message wisely.
Remember the American dream. If you work hard your children will have a chance to live a better life than you. My generation (the boomer generation) is living much better than our children and way better than our grandchildren. Democrats need to return to building and supporting the American dream.
How about you explain the popular policies MAGA supported for the young “white” working class.?
Let’s see was it living wage, universal health care, student loan forgiveness, childcare rebates, affordable housing?
Just what was it?
Hmmm, let’s see…oh, that’s right..it was ANTI- “woke” policies…no mandatory vaccinations, building Mexico wall, terrorizing brown immigrants, banning DEI, retaliatory prosecutions, dismantling ACA, dismantling Dept of Ed….are the “white” working class benefitting from this?
Surely, you realize that supporting Democratic candidates, independent of demographics, is what a democracy & Democrats do?
What I’m really interested in, is you sharing all the policies that the “white” working class finds popular that MAGA support. Otherwise, your query is nothing more than a racially divisive MAGA/GOP talking point. Similar to Palestians supporting Trump when they knew he supported Bibi/Israel; nothing but grievance politics designed to inflame racial hate so that the working “whites” vote against what’s in their economic interest to nurture their racism instead.
American working class “whites” continue to be blinded by racism rather than focus on driving America forward for ALL. The “working class”” is ALL Americans that aren’t oligarchs. There is only one boat and the “white” working class needs to stop drilling holes in the boat.
You are living in the world of Republican making just like the rest of the Democratic party. The Democratic party lost ground among all sorts of young people including young blacks and young Hispanics. Why because they don’t think the Democratic party is ever going to do a damn thing for them. Why is that? Maybe because the Democratic party has allowed the Republicans to set the narrative based on the childish issues you list above. None of them help anyone. Keeping Democrats worrying about anti woke, no DEI, no mandatory vaccines etc lets the Republicans flood the field with bullshit. If Democrats let the Republicans set the agenda they will loose forever.
Buying into the notion that working class “whites” continue to be blinded by racism and then claiming nothing can be done is the attitude of a loser. That is what you and the Democratic establishment are – a bunch of losers looking for an excuse.
An d Democrats have Always stood for programs that help working people. That you are and have been blind to that fact makes me wonder if you have been paying attention. Wage equity would never been mentioned in DC if Democrats had not brought it up. The Dems have to have POWER in order to get anywhere with ANY of their progressive policies that benefit the working class. The obvious problem is that the young working people watch Fauxnooz and other rightwing outlets and they are as deluded as you are about the platform of the Democratic Party. Unless and until the “young voters” get off of Twitter/X they are not informed enough to merit the vote.
They did for many years. They quit during Reagan. The first Democratic president to formally abandon the working class was Bill Clinton. He shipped a lot of manufacturing to Asia as we became a consumer nation that only helped the New York bankers. The House and Senate leadership had abandoned American workers some years before. Since then there has been a pathetic drift to secondary issues that support some groups identified in some focus group or other. Democrats have become specialists in promoting the secondary issues demanded by small slivers of the population without doing a damn thing important. The last to try to achieve health care was Obama. The really crappy roll out of the ACA lead to Obamacare having an initial bad name. It got better but it still isn’t the answer.
I will never forgive Clinton for NAFTA. It was a mistaken idea that we could just sail along consuming without ever getting our little hands dirty. Given the chance today, Clinton might admit that that was not his finest decision.
That is not any reason to condemn Democrats out of hand. Given the comparison with what the other Party is offering, I will take the Democratic platform every time.
Just what in the current Democratic party platform is intended to help the working class? Is it aggressively pro-labor? Does it involve universal healthcare? What about creating a kick ass education system for all Americans? How about investing in the infrastructure that will support world class manufacturing. There are lots of things the Democrats can support and they might support most or all of the items listed in principle but their media is aimed at helping people of every strip except white working class people who are the avowed enemy of every establishment Democratic politician and have been since Clinton.
Actually, yes. Those things will never happen any other way than to have a large enough majority in congress and a sane President who will obey the will of the people on Health Care, Education, gun control and labor laws. We need to give them a way to overrule this corrupt SCOTUS by getting rid of Citizen’s United as a start. That would free Dems to vote their conscience rather than having to beg constantly for money from those billionaires who are calling the shots. Public funding and short campaigns ( 6 weeks like in the UK) . We would ALL benefit from that.
I don’t know if those things will ever happen if we make a concerted effort to bring them about, but I do know they will never happen if we don’t try.
Currently the Democratic party has two enemies, traditional Republicans and the white working class people they have intentionally alienated. You don’t get people you need to vote for you by calling them deplorables. They need to be working to get at least one of those groups on their side. Who has more in common with current Democrats, Elon Muak/Jeff Besos or white working class people.
As it has been for over 70 years, the white working class really has nowhere else to go. Yes, the Democrats have failed utterly in communicating with those people, but it has also been a case of those white working people wanting everything made easy for them, and that is not realistic. If it is not very clear to those voters that the Republican regimes since Reagan have been aimed at taking the profits and screwing them, then they are simply not paying attention. Hillary was not calling these people deplorables. She was speaking specifically of the Tea Party/MAGA goons who were falling for Don the Con’s lies. If the white working voters took offense at that, they are playing the “i’m the victim” card, and that is entirely disingenuous.
