How Franken Resignation Affected Gillibrand | Talking Points Memo

I have no problem with the fact that her action came back to bite her in the ass.

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To some of us, Gillibrand confronting Franken was what we liked most about her. Personally, I consider it a badge of honor for her. If Franken wants to DO something, let him lead a crusade to help men get their heads out of their butts when it comes to treating women like toys.

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Sorry, she was correct in calling him out. Warren and Harris also supported him resigning. This scapegoating of her has been disgusting.

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That´d be the super-capable Jennifer Palmieri offering the trenchant analysis. That´s gotta hurt, ´cos she´s a genius at doing campaign communications.

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Gillibrand screwed Al Franken without his permission.

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That left turned bothered me, and also her former legal career defending the tobacco industry against lung cancer claims. Yeah, I get that you don’t always choose your clients, but she always came across to me as an opportunistic weather vane, without any core principles. She latched onto #metoo the same way, not that Franken didn’t deserve it.

I don’t think most people knew about her legal career or early Congressional career, though. She just isn’t an inspiring candidate. Lack of core values will do that for 'ya.

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She was the ringleader, and deliberately timed and planned her actions to promote herself and get some limelight.

It wasn’t some altruistic “for the good of the Party”, it was a self-serving action. That’s why she’s been criticized.

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Well, her problem was that not many cared in terms of supporting her, but a whole lot of people cared (rightly so IMO) about her central role in torpedoing Franken. The combination was deadly.

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Al Frankin was a GREAT Democratic senator and he isn’t Harvey Weinstein in any shape or form.
Should he choose to persue it, Frankin has a better political future than Gillibrand does right now. “Al Franken Giant of the Senate” is also a terrific behind the scenes recount of a political campaign and I recommend it to anyone interested.

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And water is wet.

Among other news… fire is hot and politicians who take opportunistic shots at peers are not rewarded.

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I am so glad that even the most horrible Democrats – and I am not referring to Senator Gillibrand in any way, really – live in a fact and reality-centered world compared to conservatives.

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Whomp whaaaaah.

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The nature, tone, strategy, and tactics of her role in Al Franken’s resignation was a political calculation. It was admittedly a high wire act, and the ball could have bounced in the other direction. But at the end of the day, what the people quoted are saying is:

Politician Judged As Not Best Political Option Due To Own Record

If she was not savvy enough to navigate this albatross of her own making, then just like Steve Bullock or Tom Steyer entering very late in the game, I don’t care about a great resume and ability to shine in a national debate against Trump. The President is also a politician.

I want the next Democratic president to have better political instincts and larger ambitions than Obama, who allowed his base to become complacent while concurrently not pushing for an expansive agenda. He governed like a Clinton and will be remembered as the pivot president from that era, if the Democrats start campaigning on schools, roads, housing, etc. again rather than taking the bait on an argument about the word Christmas or making a goofy-footed stumble as the result of a political calculation you made yourself.

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Yeah, but the timing of Gillibrand’s call for Franken to resign was sort of like Jar Jar introducing the motion to grant Chancellor Palpatine emergency powers: it was the pebble that unleashed the avalanche. And it seemed that she orchestrated it that way not for principle but for maximum political advantage. For once justice was served IMO.

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Indeed - whichever way he wind was blowing: Her position

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“The sub-current of her entire candidacy was the Franken resignation, and people unfairly pinning that on her,” Palmieri told Politico."

Unfairly pinning that on her? B**lshit. Can’t even take responsibility for an abysmal mistake/being played like a tiny tiny fiddle by the Repubs. Adios.

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Who was saying in 2017 and 2018, “You know, I think Kirsten Gillibrand has the makings of a great President and she ought to run.”

Nobody besides Kirsten Gillibrand. I was gobsmacked when she announced her campaign, and not because of the Franken thing—there simply isn’t anything particularly noteworthy or remarkable about her. That’s not a sin, but in that respect she’s no different from the dozens of other perfectly good Democratic Senators and Governors over the last several decades who’ve for one reason or another thought “I’m the one!” only to find out that few other people thought the same thing.

Maybe that wouldn’t have been so much of an issue if the field weren’t crowded, but that’s what the other candidates have to deal with as well. It’s a rough and mean business.

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Well, no sh_t, Dick Tracy!!

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“The sub-current of her entire candidacy was the Franken resignation, and people unfairly pinning that on her"

Nothing unfair about pinning that on her. She was THE FIRST Senator to go on record calling for his resignation. That she can’t own that mistake says all we need to know.

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it hasn’t affected Harris, Warren, Bernie or Booker, but…k.

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